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There are boxes for \"handshake name\" and \"signature\" but no indication of what you should put there.…",{"value":102,"source":82,"evidence":103},"Signing does not prove the key holder authored the message",[104,108],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"29754559","wyattpeak","Sure, but you're ignoring flaws in the security to make a stronger marketing message for your site. Yes, there is nothing you can do about this, it's not under your purview. But…",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"29754839","woojoo666","I don't see goalposts being moved. It seems like your base assumptions are just different from most people. Most discussions about security assume that users are taking care of…",{"value":113,"source":82,"evidence":114},"Unclear what the signature field needs and no help text",[115,116],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"29753685","ramphastidae","What am I supposed to enter for the signature? 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