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I will say that I would in no way present it as an example of a clean codebase. 6 years of weekend and night development, while having significant code…",[75],{"value":76,"source":77,"evidence":78},"PHP","inferred",[79],{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},"open_source","launched","solo",{"praise":84,"objections":108,"requests":136,"questions":154,"alternatives":173},[85,101],{"value":86,"source":87,"evidence":88},"Fast, simple and easy to use","commenter",[89,93,97],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"29852520","shdisi","Thanks for creating and maintaining BookStack. My company has used it for around three years, and recently integrated it with Okta for SSO. It’s fast, simple to use, and the…",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"29852330","fnord123","Sorry this is nothing like Confluence. On Bookstack you click a link and get a new page instantly. This is nothing like Confluence where you need to wait 5-8 seconds for each…",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"29852045","tommica","Such a nice tool - we use it at work, and the people managing like how simple it us to use!",{"value":102,"source":87,"evidence":103},"Good API and webhooks",[104],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"29853623","IceWreck","I used to use Dokuwiki as my personal notes app\u002Fknowledgebase pretty heavily. Switched to Bookstack two years ago and never looked back. It has everything you need in a Wiki, no…",[109,119,129],{"value":110,"source":87,"evidence":111},"No real-time multi-user editing",[112,116],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"29852445","sirodoht","The only issue I have with many Confluence alternatives is that they don't support multiple people editing the same document, at the same time, à la google docs. Does this? I…",{"id":117,"by":11,"text":118},"29852547","Does not support this at the moment. Currently rebuilding the editor with a vision to potentially support that in the future although there'd be some hurdles to jump over to get…",{"value":120,"source":87,"evidence":121},"No managed hosting offering",[122,126],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"29852376","robsalasco","Would be nice if they can offer a managed version in the near future",{"id":127,"by":11,"text":128},"29852528","Yeah, this has been requested a few times. I don't come from a hosting background (Outside of managing my own VPSs) so I don't feel it's something I can personally do (at a level…",{"value":130,"source":87,"evidence":131},"Not suited to very large enterprise scale; lacks teams concept",[132],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"29852700","polote","Maybe BookStack can do fine for a company with a few dozens of employees. But Confluence can handle tens of thousands of employees. 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