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I built this website after having to recreate the same Google Sheets template over and over for different trips. This is basically Google Docs for calendars along with…",{"value":56,"source":57,"evidence":58},"Groups planning trips together","inferred",[59,60],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"30724603","pondemic","I rarely log into HN, but I just wanted to say thank you so much for building this. I was looking for something just like it a few months ago to plan a trip with some friends…",{"value":65,"source":50,"evidence":66},"No monetization yet; freemium considered",[67],{"id":68,"by":11,"text":69},"30731298","None right now, but I was considering having a freemium model and charge for additional customization and features that do cost more like location-aware events.",{"value":71,"source":50,"evidence":72},"Recreated the same Google Sheets template for different trips",[73],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},[75,79,83],{"value":76,"source":50,"evidence":77},"SvelteKit",[78],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},{"value":80,"source":50,"evidence":81},"Firebase (database and authentication)",[82],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},{"value":84,"source":50,"evidence":85},"Vercel hosting",[86],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},"unknown","launched",{"praise":90,"objections":107,"requests":157,"questions":195,"alternatives":221},[91,100],{"value":92,"source":93,"evidence":94},"Useful for collaborative trip planning with a simple shared link","commenter",[95,96],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"30724370","pkulak","Nice! Using it now for a trip I'm leaving on in a few hours. :D It would be nice to share a link that folks can suggest, without signing up. Kinda hard to get a bunch of people…",{"value":101,"source":93,"evidence":102},"Better than spreadsheets or Google Docs for group trips",[103],{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"30783117","subkamran","This looks great! I may try this out for a summer trip. We plan trips amongst 3-4 of us. We've used Notion before, but my wife and friend couldn't understand it. We've used a…",[108,120,139,150],{"value":109,"source":93,"evidence":110},"Sign-up required before trying it; wants anonymous access",[111,115,119],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"30725032","wpietri","This is interesting, but for me the barrier to entry is too high for me to try it out absent an urgent need. Right now I'm thinking about visiting family sometime this summer and…",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"30726994","mcint","Thank you for building this. I have been meaning to, for a few years. I would suggest that, like when2meet, this should support coordination without every person having signed…",{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},{"value":121,"source":93,"evidence":122},"Name is too similar to Calendly",[123,127,131,135],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"30726018","elefanten","Thanks for sharing. Very trivial feedback here: Calendly has gotten pretty prominent and your app’s name is so similar that I misread it as Calendly (and wondered “why is…",{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"30726300","tylermenezes","This looks like a wonderful tool, but I would be hesitant to use it solely because I'm sure Calendly's IP lawyers will try to shut you down for the name. 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In my experience this tends to be…",{"value":171,"source":93,"evidence":172},"Time zone support",[173],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"30724917","noirbot","I think I mostly agree with you, but I definitely have a set of apps that I install for only trips. I had a trip back in November with 6 people in total, and plenty of sub-groups…",{"value":178,"source":93,"evidence":179},"Map view and travel time between activities",[180,184],{"id":181,"by":182,"text":183},"30730531","buildint","Fantastic idea and looks great. I can see this going to another level if it had... 1) list of suggested travel hotspots to drag and drop 2) provided travel time information…",{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},"30725648","eddyg","I'm curious what benefits you see something like this offering over a more \"full-fledged\" collaborative trip-planning solution like https:\u002F\u002Fwanderlog.com\u002F? 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(Specifically for integrating auth and calendar events) I am building…",{"value":208,"source":93,"evidence":209},"Monetization plans",[210],{"id":211,"by":212,"text":213},"30725508","joenathanone","Plans for monetization?",{"value":215,"source":93,"evidence":216},"Whether automatic CRDTs were needed",[217],{"id":218,"by":219,"text":220},"30727904","wuschel","Hi, great project, and looks very neat :) I would be very curious to hear about any difficulties when implementing actual collaborative editing. Did you have to go into CRDTs and…",[222,226,233,241,245],{"value":223,"source":93,"evidence":224},"Wanderlog",[225],{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},{"value":227,"source":93,"evidence":228},"TripIt",[229],{"id":230,"by":231,"text":232},"30724482","culpable_pickle","As a trip-it free tier user, it’s not clear to me why this is a better choice. 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