[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":542},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-3115086":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":47,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":104,"maker_in_thread":260,"shape":273,"grid":277,"attempts":505,"same_week":506,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":534,"reader_version":535,"card":536},"3115086","Dive Into iOS","Learn iPhone and iPad development in less than an hour","title","Show HN: Learn iPhone and iPad development in less than an hour","http:\u002F\u002Fdiveintoios.com\u002Fhome","diveintoios.com","sidwyn",1318695618,2011,163,91,47,1097,5,"notable","learning_science","programming video courses","other",[24,25,26,27],"ios development","objective-c tutorial","iphone programming course","ipad app development","mixed",-0.332,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},9,14,2,23,48,{"docs":37,"design":40,"execution":41,"pricing":43,"idea":45,"performance":46},{"positive":38,"critical":39},1,0,{"positive":38,"critical":38},{"positive":39,"critical":42},4,{"positive":33,"critical":44},7,{"positive":38,"critical":44},{"positive":39,"critical":39},[48,38,38,42,18,38,38,48,38,39,38,38,39,38,39,39,39,18,39,39,48,48,48,48,48,38,39,48,48,48,38,18,38,18,38,38,38,38,38,38],3,null,{"problem":51,"audience":61,"pricing":67,"motivation":80,"time_to_build":49,"stack":84,"openness":101,"stage":102,"team_size":103},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"Steep learning curve for iOS development","maker",[55,58],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"3115133","Hi guys, launched a service to kickstart iOS development and beat the learning curve. We provide short and succinct tutorials to get you started. Would love to hear your…",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"3115345","I enjoy teaching very much, as much as making apps. I even opened my own school in reality to solely teach iOS (http:\u002F\u002Fpragmaticlab.com). One thing I've noticed in the iOS…",{"value":62,"source":53,"evidence":63},"People new to iOS development who can't concentrate for long",[64],{"id":65,"by":11,"text":66},"3116210","Interesting. Haven't seen Lynda but I've seen other sites that offer iOS tutorials as well. Ours is 'Learn iPhone\u002FiPad development in less than an hour'. 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Try doing some A\u002FB testing on this.",{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"3116126","papaver","A few suggestions: - Kill the power point like slides in the videos, they are not very useful. Such information is better represented as text, so it can be searched and easily…",{"value":140,"source":87,"evidence":141},"Free Stanford iTunes U course is a strong alternative",[142,146],{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"3115313","patrickk","I've used the Beginning iPhone 4 Development book too and I've found it excellent. Also I used the iPhone development course from Stanford on iTunes U, which is quite…",{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"3115346","rdouble","It will be hard to compete with the free Stanford courses. Especially since the sample looks like it's almost the same format. 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