[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":523},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-31333436":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":46,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":64,"maker_in_thread":204,"shape":212,"grid":217,"attempts":475,"same_week":486,"maker_shows":205,"maker_hidden":515,"reader_version":516,"card":517},"31333436","Oldest Search","Search for the oldest result on internet","title","Show HN: Oldest Search – Search for the oldest result on internet","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.oldestsearch.com\u002F","oldestsearch.com","jarrenae",1652221304,2022,295,87,144,2570,6,"legend","productivity","search tool","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"oldest search","old web search","internet history","dated results","roasted",-0.339,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},12,14,2,32,60,{"performance":37,"idea":39,"execution":41,"design":44,"privacy":45},{"positive":18,"critical":38},0,{"positive":40,"critical":38},5,{"positive":42,"critical":43},1,29,{"positive":38,"critical":33},{"positive":38,"critical":42},[40,40,47,42,38,42,40,47,47,42,47,42,47,42,42,47,40,33,42,42,42,42,42,42,38,42,47,42,40,42,42,42,42,38,42,47,47,47,40,33],3,"Oldest Search is a custom google search that specifically targets the oldest entries available. I'm always curious about the first entries for certain data on the internet, it's a valuable perspective builder.\n\nI personally like news articles that have been digitized that were written in the pre-internet era. Unfortunately some results don't always work well because pages have been dated incorrectly. For example, searching \"Covid\" shows recent results.\n\nI launch new projects like this daily: small tools to increase human agency. I'm also very open to suggestions to improve!",{"problem":50,"audience":56,"pricing":56,"motivation":57,"time_to_build":56,"stack":61,"openness":62,"stage":63,"team_size":62},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Finding the earliest online results for a topic, since search engines do not sort by age well.","maker",[54],{"id":55},"post",null,{"value":58,"source":52,"evidence":59},"Curiosity about first entries for data on the internet and a perspective-building view of history.",[60],{"id":55},[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":65,"objections":89,"requests":131,"questions":154,"alternatives":173},[66,78],{"value":67,"source":68,"evidence":69},"Surfaces old news articles and personal history that ordinary search misses.","commenter",[70,74],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"31333839","onionisafruit","I learned something new about my father through an old news article that came up when searching his name. I won’t say what it was, but it is something personally meaningful to me…",{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"31336360","XorNot","This turned up the old school year books for my dad, including some photos I would probably not have seen otherwise. Saved into my family archives now as something for my son to…",{"value":79,"source":68,"evidence":80},"Nostalgic and fun to explore.",[81,85],{"id":82,"by":83,"text":84},"31337511","thestepafter","Very well done, this brings back a lot of memories and nostalgia. For example, searching for: jeff bezos returns the 1997 shareholder letter.…",{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"31334650","samaman","Very fun to see how trends got started! Searched quantum computing and the oldest result was Peter Schor's paper on what would become Schors algorithm",[90,109,124],{"value":91,"source":68,"evidence":92},"Dates are often wrong, since it relies on Google results with inaccurate publish dates.",[93,97,101,105],{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"31334945","paxys","The results aren't very meaningful. Seems like it is relying on self reported fields from sites, which don't make much sense in this context. So far I have found: - LinkedIn…",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"31336410","petepete","I also searched Tiktok and my first result was a BBC News story called 'What is Tiktok' from 1991! I suspect it's a typo in the publish date field.",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"31333566","marginalia_nu","> \"Covid\" shows recent results. Covid wasn't around until 2019, so I don't imagine what you'd expect to find earlier than that? It's funny how it mis-dates a lot of the entires…",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"31336178","EB-Barrington","For my search: Several results from 2001, when the oldest result should be circa 2012. One result was an indexed tweet, correct date is May 4 this year, but it was incorrectly…",{"value":110,"source":68,"evidence":111},"Results are not truly the oldest internet content; many are old print articles or database records.",[112,116,120],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"31335255","Maursault","Top result for \"IBM\" is dated March 31, 1983. But it's cheating, see for yourself https:\u002F\u002Fwww.science.org\u002Fdoi\u002F10.1126\u002Fscience.220.4592.43",{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"31334794","jacobsievers","I don't get it. It pulls up journal entries from the 1970's on PubMed. Are those \"on the internet\"? What about Google Books results?",{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"31336216","dleslie","For some things, like \"lisp\", it goes back to the 70s. That seems correct. For others, like \"slashdot.org\", it only goes back to the turn of the millenium. It can't really be…",{"value":125,"source":68,"evidence":126},"Requires JavaScript, which is unappealing for old-web fans.",[127],{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"31335846","macleodan","\"You need to enable JavaScript to run this app.\" This seems especially unappealing for people who like the old web.",[132,141,150],{"value":133,"source":52,"evidence":134},"Add Usenet archive results.",[135,138],{"id":136,"by":11,"text":137},"31334115","In another one of my same day projects I'd like to add usenet results as well.",{"id":139,"by":11,"text":140},"31334028","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.usenetarchives.com\u002F is a good resource for that! EDIT: seems like search there is broken.",{"value":142,"source":52,"evidence":143},"Better filtering of inaccurately dated pages.",[144,147],{"id":145,"by":11,"text":146},"31334108","Agreed, this is a sort of proof of concept version, and ideally we could more effectively filter out inaccurately dated pages. Like I mentioned in my original comment, we're…",{"id":148,"by":11,"text":149},"31334181","Agreed. Better filtering would be helpful. I'd also like to add Usenet and book searches eventually as well.",{"value":151,"source":52,"evidence":152},"Add book and historical document sources.",[153],{"id":145,"by":11,"text":146},[155,166],{"value":156,"source":68,"evidence":157},"How is the earliest date determined for a result?",[158,162],{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"31333972","II2II","I wonder what they mean by \"oldest entries\" after doing a query for \"Apple II\". The first two results were this day in history style pages, with the first page having a…",{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"31334007","estebarb","The date is when the url was first crawled, not the date of the current content.",{"value":167,"source":68,"evidence":168},"Why does the page flash a blue screen?",[169],{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"31334857","Meai","Why is it flashing a bluescreen at me every 25 seconds? https:\u002F\u002Foldestsearch.com\u002Fblue.png Code from their site: ``` setInterval(() => { app.style.backgroundImage =…",[174,185,193],{"value":175,"source":68,"evidence":176},"Google date-filtered search and custom ranges.",[177,181],{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"31334088","chx","Something is wrong. Obviously I put in my own family name because I know both my brother and I have been active very, very early. Here's Google on the name 1993-1997:…",{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"31335764","w-ll","I honestly need the opposite of this most the time. It's almost muscle memory for me to do `Tools -> Any Time -> Past Year` on any search for technical information. A lot of…",{"value":186,"source":68,"evidence":187},"Usenet archives and search engines.",[188,192],{"id":189,"by":190,"text":191},"31333868","mark242","The key to this is just searching the archives of Usenet. That will almost guarantee you the \"oldest\" result since you're seeing essentially 20th century…",{"id":139,"by":11,"text":140},{"value":194,"source":68,"evidence":195},"Google's old 2001 index search and Wayback Machine.",[196,200],{"id":197,"by":198,"text":199},"31333878","runlevel1","Years ago, Google released site where you could search one of their very early indexes of the web. I think it might have been around 2010 when they released it? I haven't been…",{"id":201,"by":202,"text":203},"31334010","alliao","google should productise this... for every decade if it's easier on infrastructure, snapshot it and preserve, hell work with waybackmachine.. 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