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You're essentially loaning companies money for the RIs, right? So if all your customers sold them back to you you'd be in trouble, like a loan…",{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},"31358463","paxys","Neat idea. Why gate it to companies that already have existing AWS setups though? You are basically a secondary EC2 marketplace. Couldn't people just get an instance from you…",{"id":84,"by":85,"text":86},"31359303","tluyben2","It is nice. I do this manually for companies (short contracts); great if I can do more automation and less manual work as often it is repetitive.",[88,102,116],{"value":89,"source":73,"evidence":90},"Buyback risk makes the business model unprofitable or risky",[91,95,98],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"31359447","tiffanyh","> So you get the steep 57% savings of 3-year no-upfront RIs with none of the commitment (you can sell them back to us anytime after 30 days) … We make money off a 20% Savings Fee…",{"id":96,"by":10,"text":97},"31359413","If we can't find a buyer then yes, we buy them back until we find a buyer. To limit this risk, we only offer buy-back on particular instance families and regions that are most…",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"31359166","verdverm","You may want to reconsider this assumption. The cloud companies may be relatively \"recession proof\" because more companies are migrating to the cloud. 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