[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":858},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-31910622":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":49,"post_text":51,"what":52,"said":106,"maker_in_thread":214,"shape":223,"grid":227,"attempts":819,"same_week":820,"maker_shows":50,"maker_hidden":850,"reader_version":851,"card":852},"31910622","Legible News","I ranked news websites by speed","title","Show HN: I ranked news websites by speed","https:\u002F\u002Flegiblenews.com\u002Fspeed","legiblenews.com","bradgessler",1656437718,2022,320,198,122,2570,5,"legend","productivity","news reader","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"news","website speed","text-only news","page speed","mixed",-0.281,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},9,46,4,38,97,{"idea":37,"docs":39,"pricing":41,"performance":44,"design":46,"execution":48},{"positive":18,"critical":38},14,{"positive":40,"critical":18},0,{"positive":42,"critical":43},1,3,{"positive":40,"critical":45},8,{"positive":42,"critical":47},6,{"positive":40,"critical":42},[42,40,42,50,42,42,43,42,50,42,43,40,40,40,42,42,33,43,43,43,18,18,50,42,43,42,43,50,43,42,43,33,50,43,42,50,42,43,43,42],2,"I've been working on building \"the fastest news website\" for a few reasons:\n\n1. I got tired of waiting for news websites to load, so I made a text-only news website that only has major news headlines.\n\n2. I wanted to demonstrate to the world that if you want to build something really fast on the web, you can do it without loads of JavaScript.\n\n3. I wanted to show that you can design something that looks good without having tons of images, etc.\n\nI put together the speed page at https:\u002F\u002Flegiblenews.com\u002Fspeed to hold my website to be more accountable for speed, but it's also interesting to see ho",{"problem":53,"audience":62,"pricing":71,"motivation":81,"time_to_build":85,"stack":86,"openness":103,"stage":104,"team_size":105},{"value":54,"source":55,"evidence":56},"Major news websites load slowly and are cluttered with ads and scripts","maker",[57,59],{"id":58},"post",{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},"31910937","Ad blockers are interesting because they do make a pretty big difference. I wrote a little about that under \"Less is more\" at https:\u002F\u002Flegiblenews.com\u002Fspeed\u002Fwhy. ``` As of June…",{"value":63,"source":55,"evidence":64},"Non-technical people who want fast, focused news",[65,68],{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},"31911034","Yes! There's so many things the HN crowd does to make websites bearable. It's sad how hostile the web has become to users, especially non-technical folks. I built Legible News…",{"id":69,"by":11,"text":70},"31912093","This is accurate. Current costs are: 1. Hosting - $30-$60\u002Fmo depending on traffic levels. The more subscribers, the more this will cost. 2. Workstation - Its fractional, but the…",{"value":72,"source":55,"evidence":73},"$9.99 per year subscription, 10% donated to Wikimedia",[74,78],{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"31910936","strongpigeon","Nice work on the page and on shipping! What surprises me the most from this is how fast USA Today is given the amount of stuff going on on their page. I like how you've put the…",{"id":79,"by":11,"text":80},"31911415","Yes! The news content and links from them are from Wikipedia, which is why I donate a portion of revenue to them. The value I'm delivering is speed and focus, going further than…",{"value":82,"source":55,"evidence":83},"Get tired of slow news sites and show that fast websites are possible without heavy JavaScript",[84],{"id":58},null,[87,94],{"value":88,"source":89,"evidence":90},"Ruby on Rails (Turbo JS)","inferred",[91],{"id":92,"by":11,"text":93},"31912548","It was like that before when this was a static website, but JS actually speeds up subsequent page loads via Turbo links. The other great thing about Turbo's JS architecture is…",{"value":95,"source":55,"evidence":96},"Heroku hosting",[97,100],{"id":98,"by":11,"text":99},"31911056","Yeah speed varies depending on time of day and whether or not your Heroku instances are being subjected to an influx of HN traffic. :-) Cranking up the Dynos to keep up. Which…",{"id":101,"by":11,"text":102},"31911232","You're not imaging things: I'm running a bit hot right now from HN load…","unknown","launched","solo",{"praise":107,"objections":120,"requests":144,"questions":178,"alternatives":200},[108],{"value":109,"source":110,"evidence":111},"Text-only and JavaScript-light news sites are a pleasure to use","commenter",[112,116],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"31910890","buro9","News websites with JavaScript disabled can be a pleasure: - https:\u002F\u002Fwww.theguardian.com\u002Fuk is fast and snappy - https:\u002F\u002Fwww.bbc.co.uk\u002Fnews feels like a hyper fast mobile website…",{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"31914530","1vuio0pswjnm7","The metrics focus on the website but ignore the browser\u002Fclient. I use a text-only browser. It does not support Javascript. I also use TCP clients to make HTTP requests and fetch…",[121,129,133],{"value":122,"source":110,"evidence":123},"Headlines and content are copied from Wikipedia Current Events with little added value",[124,128],{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"31911263","samwillis","Nice idea on legiblenews.com, however it looks to me like it's just using https:\u002F\u002Fen.wikipedia.org\u002Fwiki\u002FPortal:Current_events and changing the format? All the articles are from…",{"id":79,"by":11,"text":80},{"value":130,"source":110,"evidence":131},"Subscription price is steep for an aggregator",[132],{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},{"value":134,"source":110,"evidence":135},"Speed matters less than content quality and trust",[136,140],{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},"31910879","ARandomerDude","Interesting. Honestly, I never notice load times from news sites because they're all an advertising cesspool and I run Brave + layered ad blockers on my computer and mobile…",{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"31916575","ddingus","Personally, I do not find speed to be a significant exception or attraction. Actually getting news is the clear winner! Thought experiment, two sites: One is quick, easy to read,…",[145,164,171],{"value":146,"source":110,"evidence":147},"Add text-only lite versions of news sites such as lite.cnn.com and text.npr.org",[148,152,156,160],{"id":149,"by":150,"text":151},"31910811","gravypod","Odd to see CNN last when https:\u002F\u002Flite.cnn.com\u002Fen exists. Maybe that should be another entry?",{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"31910858","twobitshifter","in addition to lite.cnn.com please add text.npr.org",{"id":157,"by":158,"text":159},"31912082","dontbenebby","do text.npr.org please :-)",{"id":161,"by":162,"text":163},"31914920","SamuelAdams","Do you consider lite editions of sites, such as https:\u002F\u002Ftext.npr.org or https:\u002F\u002Flite.cnn.com? I use these often and they come in handy during extreme weather conditions…",{"value":165,"source":110,"evidence":166},"Add CBC News and other major news sites to the rankings",[167],{"id":168,"by":169,"text":170},"31915544","na85","I'd be interested in seeing CBC.ca\u002Fnews on the rankings, as I imagine they'd be near the bottom and they need a kick in the pants.",{"value":172,"source":110,"evidence":173},"Test BBC news page at bbc.com\u002Fnews",[174],{"id":175,"by":176,"text":177},"31915466","wackget","BBC should be tested against bbc.com\u002Fnews, not bbc.com. They're very different pages\u002Fsites.",[179,189],{"value":180,"source":110,"evidence":181},"Is the Wikipedia content licensed and attributed properly",[182,186],{"id":183,"by":184,"text":185},"31911394","O__________O","If true, and appears it is, if the source for the feed really is Wikipedia, shouldn’t it be credited on the site? Related Wikipedia page on reusing it’s content:…",{"id":187,"by":11,"text":188},"31911882","It is, see the \"License\" link at the bottom of pages that display Wikipedia content. Front page currently points at https:\u002F\u002Flegiblenews.com\u002Fjune-27-2022\u002Flicense. Note: there was…",{"value":190,"source":110,"evidence":191},"Why are some sites like NYT and Drudge slow in the rankings",[192,196],{"id":193,"by":194,"text":195},"31911113","hrdwdmrbl","Very curious that NYT's is so slow given their fairly advanced tech team. They do a lot of neat stuff with that team. 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