[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":1005},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-32081943":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":29,"sentiment":30,"stance_mix":31,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":47,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":90,"maker_in_thread":228,"shape":240,"grid":244,"attempts":966,"same_week":967,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":997,"reader_version":998,"card":999},"32081943","Inflation-adjusted stock charts","Total Real Returns","title","Show HN: Inflation-adjusted stock charts – Total Real Returns","https:\u002F\u002Ftotalrealreturns.com\u002F","totalrealreturns.com","compumike",1657716922,2022,507,272,53,2570,3,"legend","finance_crypto","inflation-adjusted investment charts","web_app",[24,25,26,27,28],"inflation adjusted returns","total return chart","real returns","cpi","stock charts","curious",0.006,{"positive":32,"neutral":33,"mixed":18,"critical":34},11,39,12,65,{"idea":37,"design":40,"docs":42,"execution":44,"performance":46},{"positive":38,"critical":39},2,4,{"positive":39,"critical":41},5,{"positive":43,"critical":43},1,{"positive":45,"critical":38},0,{"positive":38,"critical":45},[43,45,45,45,45,43,38,18,18,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,43,45,45,18,45,45,45,18,18,45,45,45,45,45,41,18,38,39,43,18,41,39,38,38],"Here's a little side project I’ve been working on: https:\u002F\u002Ftotalrealreturns.com\u002F The Total Real Returns chart demonstrates the preservation or growth of real wealth more clearly than conventional (nominal-dollar, price-only) stock charts, because: (1) we include the effects of inflation-diminished purchasing power, and (2) we include the effects of reinvesting dividends from the initial investment.\n\nI found it harder to explain the y-axis in words than it was to do the math, so please let me know if you think the \"baguettes\" explanation on the homepage helps.\n\nI was up until 4am ET finishing s",{"problem":50,"audience":56,"pricing":56,"motivation":57,"time_to_build":56,"stack":61,"openness":87,"stage":88,"team_size":89},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Standard stock charts ignore inflation and reinvested dividends, hiding real wealth changes","maker",[54],{"id":55},"post",null,{"value":58,"source":52,"evidence":59},"Maker wanted to show real wealth preservation more clearly than nominal charts",[60],{"id":55},[62,71,75,79,83],{"value":63,"source":52,"evidence":64},"Crystal",[65,68],{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},"32086659","BACKEND: It's about 3000 lines of Crystal code https:\u002F\u002Fcrystal-lang.org\u002F -- it's been an absolute dream to program in. Ruby-like syntax, statically compiled performance. Nice…",{"id":69,"by":11,"text":70},"32087761","Crystal https:\u002F\u002Fcrystal-lang.org\u002F is beautiful, highly performant, concise, powerful, well documented. It has a solid standard library and plenty of \"shards\" (packages) too. It's…",{"value":72,"source":52,"evidence":73},"Redis",[74],{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},{"value":76,"source":52,"evidence":77},"Bootstrap",[78],{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},{"value":80,"source":52,"evidence":81},"uPlot",[82],{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},{"value":84,"source":52,"evidence":85},"S3-compatible object storage",[86],{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},"unknown","launched","solo",{"praise":91,"objections":122,"requests":159,"questions":198,"alternatives":222},[92,104,111],{"value":93,"source":94,"evidence":95},"Clean, nice-looking site","commenter",[96,100],{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"32084978","adrianmsmith","Visually it's a really nice looking site. If I may offer one suggestion, it would be to use a minus sign (unicode U+2212) for the negative numbers - by default, for historical…",{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"32084739","artursapek","What a dope tool, thanks for building it! I love clean, simple dataviz websites like this.",{"value":105,"source":94,"evidence":106},"Baguette explanation of the y-axis helps",[107],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"32085713","freeqaz","The baguette bit is what made it \"click\" for me. Thank you!",{"value":112,"source":94,"evidence":113},"Fast rendering",[114,118],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"32086959","rrevi","“Rendered by the Crystal programming language in 739 µs.” Very nice!",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"32086257","nestvine","What tech stack are you using? 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However, it seems to go down.…",{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"32086129","snake_doc","Why not use Fed’s preferred measure PCEPI for longer term aggregate inflation adjustments? CPI is not adequate for long term adjustments for a variety of reasons. The common…",{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"32090146","icu","So you used CPI as your inflation measure? I personally don't think CPI or RPI is a good inflation yardstick, because the calculations change over time. For consistency I would…",{"value":149,"source":94,"evidence":150},"Start date normalization makes comparisons hard",[151,155],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"32085059","pedrosorio","Having all lines normalized so they start from a common point at x = 0 would be helpful. That would allow reading the total returns as percentage of the initial (1987) investment…",{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"32083206","fundamental","If the goal is to demonstrate relative performance over time, wouldn't it be useful to use a normalization such that all lines either start at the same point (e.g. simulating…",[160,165,172,183,191],{"value":161,"source":94,"evidence":162},"Normalize all lines to a common start point",[163,164],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},{"value":166,"source":94,"evidence":167},"Add symbol search box",[168],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"32084270","workah0lic","I used to calculate this manually whenever I thought about the reality, and whenever wondering if I can retire. This is really cool. One comment though is the mass of company…",{"value":173,"source":94,"evidence":174},"Add more history such as the 1970s",[175,179],{"id":176,"by":177,"text":178},"32084125","nostrademons","Wish it had the 70s, or ideally, the whole 20th century. The 80s-2010s has been a period of unusually low inflation and consistent market returns, buoyed by the end of the Cold…",{"id":180,"by":181,"text":182},"32085303","nope96","Perhaps Gold should be on the front page, as it is always mentioned as a supposed inflation hedge. also https:\u002F\u002Fwww.portfoliovisualizer.com\u002Fbacktest-asset-class-allocation has…",{"value":184,"source":94,"evidence":185},"Add 60\u002F40 portfolio and commodities",[186,190],{"id":187,"by":188,"text":189},"32086369","dcolkitt","Would be interesting to insert the classic 60\u002F40 stock\u002Fbond portfolio. 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Does it just reset where 0% is every time the fund reaches a new market high?",{"value":216,"source":94,"evidence":217},"Where the data comes from",[218],{"id":219,"by":220,"text":221},"32084012","e63f67dd-065b","Huh, so portfoliovisualizer but with slightly more convenient shortcuts built in. Looks neat, but way less powerful than just using portfolio visualiser. I’ve always wondered…",[223],{"value":224,"source":94,"evidence":225},"PortfolioVisualizer",[226,227],{"id":180,"by":181,"text":182},{"id":219,"by":220,"text":221},{"comments":229,"answered":32,"key":230},14,[231,234,237],{"id":232,"text":233},"32083454","I think that's a reasonable idea and I may try including that option in the future. Right now, the start point is quite arbitrary: it's the first date where we have data for all…",{"id":235,"text":236},"32083615","Thank you. :) I agree with the \"Who knows!\" and that we've benefited from a lot of favorable tailwinds, which are quite uncertain for the future. 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