[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":334},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-32303337":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":42,"post_text":44,"what":45,"said":64,"maker_in_thread":181,"shape":194,"grid":198,"attempts":292,"same_week":297,"maker_shows":32,"maker_hidden":326,"reader_version":327,"card":328},"32303337","Ably Host","White Label Any Webpage","title","Show HN: White Label Any Webpage","https:\u002F\u002Fablyhost.com\u002F","ablyhost.com","motyar",1659341560,2022,22,42,1440,2570,57,"shown","web_saas","site hosting proxy","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"custom domain","white label","webpage proxy","site hosting","roasted",-0.403,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":32,"critical":33},1,4,11,20,{"pricing":36,"execution":39,"idea":40,"privacy":41},{"positive":37,"critical":38},0,3,{"positive":37,"critical":37},{"positive":31,"critical":37},{"positive":37,"critical":38},[31,37,37,38,31,37,31,31,37,38,37,38,37,31,37,31,37,38,37,37,37,37,31,37,38,37,31,37,31,37,38,37,38,38,37,31,43,37,37,31],5,null,{"problem":46,"audience":44,"pricing":54,"motivation":44,"time_to_build":44,"stack":61,"openness":62,"stage":63,"team_size":62},{"value":47,"source":48,"evidence":49},"Moves pages built on other platforms to your own domain without their custom domain plans","commenter",[50],{"id":51,"by":52,"text":53},"32304303","nkrisc","> You have your web pages and forms built on other platforms like Bubble, Webflow, Notion, etc. And want to move those webpages under your own \"domain name\" without using their…",{"value":55,"source":56,"evidence":57},"Paid plans mentioned as a possible restriction","maker",[58],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"32304657","Not sure, we can verify users by email, or allow them to run this on paid plans only. It have the same level of risk as a 'web hosting' service.",[],"unknown","beta",{"praise":65,"objections":81,"requests":137,"questions":148,"alternatives":168},[66],{"value":67,"source":48,"evidence":68},"Interesting concept and use case for moving content between hosts",[69,73,77],{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"32304448","imdsm","I like the concept here Motyar! Will be interesting to see how origin services interact with it, as others have said. Best of luck!",{"id":74,"by":75,"text":76},"32304854","7952","I have mixed feelings about this. It seems wrong to strip the branding and has obvious copyright issues. However, there really is a use case for using web services to build…",{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},"32304780","tuukkah","I see an ethical aspect of this in data portability: it should be possible to create your web site in one service and then migrate it to another one for hosting (it's your…",[82,97,108,115,126],{"value":83,"source":48,"evidence":84},"Copyright infringement and profiting from copied sites",[85,89,93],{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"32304586","dctoedt","Can you spell \"copyright infringement\" and \"disgorgement of your profits from the infringement\"? https:\u002F\u002Fwww.law.cornell.edu\u002Fuscode\u002Ftext\u002F17\u002F504",{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"32304046","besnn00","From what I gather this can be abused to steal websites. Very cool concept though.",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"32304263","julius","Bubble, Webflow and Notion will not be happy that your service takes their custom domain revenue. How much are you prepared to deal with the legal and technical roadblocks they…",{"value":98,"source":48,"evidence":99},"Enables phishing and copied-site abuse",[100,104],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"32304104","tiborsaas","Do you have a plan to avoid turning this into a dream tool for phishing attacks?",{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"32304830","chaoz_","Website of the friend of mine got copied this way. Weird traffic was detected with some analytics tools and then we thought: 1. Why would anybody do anything like that? 2. How do…",{"value":109,"source":48,"evidence":110},"Circumvents other providers' paid custom domain plans",[111,112],{"id":51,"by":52,"text":53},{"id":113,"by":52,"text":114},"32304753","Physical analogies are never great for digital, but they’re selling movie tickets at the back door of someone else’s theater. Will definitely be interesting to see how these…",{"value":116,"source":48,"evidence":117},"Source sites can block proxy by IP or domain",[118,122],{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"32304136","Jaruzel","So it's proxying the original site\u002Fpage through their own platform using your domain named pointed at their server. What happens when the original sites start blocking requests…",{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"32304916","RileyJames","Iframes can be blocked quite easily from the origin, so it’s only a solution as long as they deem it to be. And many sites block by default. Would there be any way for the origin…",{"value":127,"source":48,"evidence":128},"Cookies and auth tokens not handled",[129,133],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"32304151","paulgb","Clever, I can see the need for this. Are you caching, or proxying every request? What do you do about cookies?",{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"32305214","BeniBoy","If the service you are proxying offers authentication based on token within cookies, does that mean that you will have access to tokens hosted on the client side? 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