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Good luck with it!",[125,140,144],{"value":126,"source":84,"evidence":127},"Amazon's logistics and operational value is hard to replicate",[128,132,136],{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"32692762","jpatt","A few points I'm skeptical of: ``` simply connect to the seller’s infra instead of locking them in. ``` One of the value-adds of Amazon is there's a whole bunch of tech sellers…",{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"32693136","MisterBastahrd","Saying that you're building an open source Amazon to complete with Amazon is like saying that you're working on an audio player skin to compete with Winamp. 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They were on to something, and just possibly, all this infrastructure built around…",{"id":168,"by":169,"text":170},{"id":189,"by":190,"text":191},"32694255","electric_mayhem","Openbazaar is a thing. https:\u002F\u002Fopenbazaar.org\u002F",{"value":193,"source":84,"evidence":194},"ONDC",[195],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"32694391","sandeepeecs","in india they are doing some thing called ONDC https:\u002F\u002Fen.wikipedia.org\u002Fwiki\u002FOpen_Network_for_Digital_Commerce ONDC is not an application, an intermediary, or software, but a set…",{"comments":200,"answered":201,"key":202},8,6,[203,206,207],{"id":204,"text":205},"32691937","Yes I saw that. The last one was a blog post I made in 2019 describing the vision in detail.",{"id":78,"text":79},{"id":208,"text":209},"32692949","You're right, but sellers are realizing that they are helping Amazon, eBay, etc. more than those platforms are helping them. 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