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I make liberal use of other saasy…",{"value":77,"source":50,"evidence":78},"React",[79],{"id":74,"by":11,"text":75},"unknown","launched","solo",{"praise":84,"objections":104,"requests":147,"questions":176,"alternatives":194},[85,97],{"value":86,"source":87,"evidence":88},"Clean, fast interface and design","commenter",[89,93],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"33348152","sdeep27","just wanted to say - this is well designed, clean interface, and fast (on my desktop). Well done, especially if you solo developed this.",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"33348549","samhuk","Kudos on the site design; fast, responsive, clean. Are you able to you tell us about your stack? Am I right in thinking that it's essentially Facebook Events but traveling?",{"value":98,"source":87,"evidence":99},"Commitment mechanism is useful for enforcing trip terms",[100],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"33348311","lastofthemojito","> Yes, I'm really focused on the commitment mechanism I think that's smart. 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You can't ESC it away and it completely blocks out all the relevant info…",{"value":124,"source":87,"evidence":125},"Single-location trips and Airbnb-only lodging limit use",[126],{"id":127,"by":102,"text":128},"33347251","I'm always fascinated by group travel apps although I certainly haven't seen a successful uber-app for managing all aspects of a trip. I like the focus here on getting commitment…",{"value":130,"source":87,"evidence":131},"Market for group travel apps may be too small",[132,136],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"33346502","abadger9","This is a problem as old as time. Over a decade ago I saw startups from Stanford trying to tackle this. This is not an expert perspective, but I believe the market is too small…",{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},"33353470","solumos","1) AirBNB is an accommodations marketplace, not a travel planning app. He's very specifically talking about travel planning apps. It's pretty difficult to monetize travel…",{"value":141,"source":87,"evidence":142},"Storing identity documents is a privacy risk",[143],{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},"33349348","laputan_machine","> Alcohol allowed > No drugs ??? > with verified identities (license or passport). 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My parents just fwd me an itinerary for 2 weeks in…",{"value":167,"source":87,"evidence":168},"More locations and dates, such as New River Gorge and Asheville",[169,173],{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"33346187","hasbot","November climbing in the New River Gorge. November mountain biking in Asheville\u002FBrevard NC. November road biking in Brevard\u002FHendersonville NC.",{"id":174,"by":11,"text":175},"33345925","Any other locations \u002F dates that I could propose that would interest folks?",[177,183,190],{"value":178,"source":87,"evidence":179},"How the app prevents fraudulent events",[180],{"id":181,"by":95,"text":182},"33348762","I wonder if Facebook never integrated payments because of the inevitability of scammers setting up fake events to extract down-payments, Fyre Festival style. Out of curiosity,…",{"value":184,"source":87,"evidence":185},"Why start date must be 10 days ahead",[186],{"id":187,"by":188,"text":189},"33349064","thih9","Why does the start date have to be at least 10 days in advance?",{"value":191,"source":87,"evidence":192},"Which tech stack is used",[193],{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},[195,202,206,210,217],{"value":196,"source":87,"evidence":197},"Wanderlog",[198],{"id":199,"by":200,"text":201},"33346256","profstasiak","What is your opinion on [0] ? 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