[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":546},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-33822950":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":45,"post_text":47,"what":48,"said":87,"maker_in_thread":204,"shape":214,"grid":219,"attempts":509,"same_week":510,"maker_shows":33,"maker_hidden":538,"reader_version":539,"card":540},"33822950","Nihongo Lessons","A Japanese learning app focused on efficient vocab\u002Fgrammar acquisition","title","Show HN: A Japanese learning app focused on efficient vocab\u002Fgrammar acquisition","https:\u002F\u002Flessons.nihongo-app.com","lessons.nihongo-app.com","chrisvasselli",1669929660,2022,161,116,373,2570,15,"notable","learning_science","language learning app","mobile_app",[24,25,26,27],"japanese learning","japanese grammar","japanese vocabulary","jalup","mixed",0.025,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},8,14,2,9,33,{"execution":37,"idea":38,"docs":39,"pricing":42,"design":44},{"positive":33,"critical":33},{"positive":33,"critical":33},{"positive":40,"critical":41},0,1,{"positive":40,"critical":43},3,{"positive":41,"critical":41},[40,43,41,46,40,41,43,40,40,40,40,40,43,41,43,40,40,40,40,43,41,41,43,43,46,40,40,43,43,43,46,43,40,40,46,46,41,41,40,43],5,"Hey HN, it’s been 8 years since I posted on here about the launch of my Japanese dictionary app Nihongo [0] and I’m finally back with a new app: Nihongo Lessons!\n\nThink of Nihongo Lessons as the textbook to Nihongo’s dictionary. 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