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Unlike ChatGPT, it has access to primary sources and is able to cite them when you hover over an answer. We also show regular Bing results side-by-side with our AI answer.\n\nThe model is an 11-billion parameter T5-derivative that has been fine-tuned on feedback given on hundreds of thousands of searches done (anonymously) on our platform. Giving the model web access lessens its burden to need to store a snapshot of human knowledge within its parameters. 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