[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":900},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-34067109":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":50,"post_text":51,"what":52,"said":83,"maker_in_thread":281,"shape":288,"grid":293,"attempts":862,"same_week":863,"maker_shows":43,"maker_hidden":892,"reader_version":893,"card":894},"34067109","paid link to","Create a paid link to anything","title","Show HN: Create a paid link to anything","https:\u002F\u002Fpaidlink.to","paidlink.to","neptuneis",1671549787,2022,316,209,126,2570,5,"legend","web_saas","paid link payments","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"paid links","paywall","pay per link","sell digital content","mixed",-0.112,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},25,54,7,43,129,{"idea":37,"execution":39,"design":42,"pricing":45,"docs":47,"privacy":49},{"positive":38,"critical":38},23,{"positive":40,"critical":41},0,6,{"positive":43,"critical":44},1,3,{"positive":40,"critical":46},2,{"positive":40,"critical":48},4,{"positive":40,"critical":48},[43,40,46,43,40,46,44,44,43,44,46,44,46,44,43,43,46,43,18,46,43,46,18,48,40,40,44,46,46,44,18,44,18,46,43,44,18,46,44,46],null,{"problem":53,"audience":64,"pricing":51,"motivation":51,"time_to_build":51,"stack":73,"openness":81,"stage":82,"team_size":81},{"value":54,"source":55,"evidence":56},"Lets sellers charge for access to a link without building a store or payment system.","inferred",[57,61],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"34068368","yyu990","The artist can just have a webpage\u002Fblog\u002F... where they would include such \"paid links\". That is, the audience still knows who they are and still builds some trust etc. But now…",{"id":62,"by":11,"text":63},"34067431","That's exactly right. This service wouldn't be appropriate if you were trying to protect access to (for example) a full web application. It could be appropriate if you were…",{"value":65,"source":55,"evidence":66},"Creators and small sellers who want to sell access to content such as documents, calls or docs.",[67,68,69],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":62,"by":11,"text":63},{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"34068240","adg001","It is worth to note that the users of such service can set an expiration date for linked resource access. This can be used, for instance, by gig workers to deliver documents to…",[74],{"value":75,"source":76,"evidence":77},"Stripe","maker",[78],{"id":79,"by":11,"text":80},"34067410","Hrm, seems like your Stripe account didn't get fully created. I'll take a look at this. In the meantime, the UX looks like this: > https:\u002F\u002Fpaidlink.to\u002Fl\u002FaofBHyHOkU (Obviously,…","unknown","launched",{"praise":84,"objections":112,"requests":176,"questions":217,"alternatives":243},[85,101],{"value":86,"source":87,"evidence":88},"Simple, clean concept with clear value for selling one-off access.","commenter",[89,93,97],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"34067941","sdwr","You kidding me? You're a complainer in search of an issue, there's nothing wrong with this. \"Buying things on the internet\" obviously works already, in the form of patreon,…",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"34071203","miiiiiike","This is a good idea. Very simple.",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"34070807","terpimost","Awesome idea!",{"value":102,"source":87,"evidence":103},"Gumroad-style idea seen as timely.",[104,108],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"34067943","vyrotek","I'm surprised to see the concerns from other comments. Isn't this exactly how Gumroad started too right here on HN?",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"34069637","ms7892","Right timing of launch if we consider Gumroad's price increament.",[113,125,140,154,165],{"value":114,"source":87,"evidence":115},"Paid links can be shared after payment, bypassing the paywall.",[116,120,124],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"34067454","tendiesfortwo","I like this idea but wouldn't it be really easy to bypass? Once you pay for it, I imagine you get redirected and can just share the final URL destination for free.",{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"34067386","ezekg","But couldn't people just share the link after the redirect?",{"id":62,"by":11,"text":63},{"value":126,"source":87,"evidence":127},"Anyone can create a paid link to someone else's URL, enabling scams and fake links.",[128,132,136],{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"34068968","giantrobot","The issue is I as a scammer can create a paid link to any arbitrary URL, including your URL. There's no verification of control like how say LetsEncrypt works. As a user I'm…",{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"34072027","Justsignedup","how will this be abuse proof? scenario: You share a link with me, earn $0.50, i notice people willing to pay for it. I then go on to create my own link once I have access to the…",{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},"34070796","lx0741","goldmine for fake links? does it check ownership?",{"value":141,"source":87,"evidence":142},"No preview or seller branding, so buyers don't know what they pay for.",[143,147,150],{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},"34067820","dale_glass","I'm not convinced this isn't a solution in search of a problem. What is it good for? For most things being sold you'll want an account attached. If this is a song or a book then…",{"id":148,"by":130,"text":149},"34078042","Since it's something that already happens and it's a known issue, it's pretty ridiculous a brand new project doesn't have some mechanism in place to prevent it. Something as…",{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"34068587","ujnproduct","This is an amazing product & given that gumroad has recently increased prices, the timing could not have been better. But information architecture of the landing page needs to…",{"value":155,"source":87,"evidence":156},"Chargeback and stolen card risk.",[157,161],{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"34075672","paulpauper","How does this handle chargebacks? What is to stop someone from putting in a bunch of stolen credit cards?",{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"34067787","doerig","If someone hypothetically did a chargeback, who would have to pay the ~$15 dispute fee? You or the user that created the link?",{"value":166,"source":87,"evidence":167},"Landing page design looks untrustworthy.",[168,172],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"34068462","Deegy","Quick and blunt piece of advice: you need to redesign your website asap imo. It reminds me exactly of what a webpage looks like once the hosting has expired on it. Very low trust…",{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"34068117","dbg31415","I think there was a link-shortener back in the day (when people used link-shorteners) that did this. The exact same way. I can't remember what happened to them... if they went…",[177,188,199,210],{"value":178,"source":87,"evidence":179},"Add PayPal or other payment options.",[180,184],{"id":181,"by":182,"text":183},"34069930","eternityforest","Looks awesome, with just a few issues. One is that I don't see PayPal support. Typing credit card info into any site not owned by a billion dollar company is a bit scary.…",{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},"34078395","terrycody","Hey I am wondering if paypal payment can be added later or is there an alter service using paypal gateway?",{"value":189,"source":87,"evidence":190},"Show an example paid link or preview of the buyer experience.",[191,195],{"id":192,"by":193,"text":194},"34067355","pimlottc","Would be useful to have an example paidlink so you can see what the UX is like for visitors.",{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"34067610","David_Axelrod","God damn it. I really wanted to see what your paywall looked like but got hit with \"hey signup. hey link your stripe\". Show me an example.",{"value":200,"source":87,"evidence":201},"Add crypto payment support.",[202,206],{"id":203,"by":204,"text":205},"34069168","max_","I would use this if it had stable coin support like USDC. Please add something like that or just BTC. Also, that way we would not need to setup a stripe account.",{"id":207,"by":208,"text":209},"34071925","the-anarchist","I'd like to have this but for XMR payments.",{"value":211,"source":87,"evidence":212},"Provide an API for creating paid links.",[213],{"id":214,"by":215,"text":216},"34075211","kypro","Christ, this is genius. Why doesn't this already exist? I can already think of a bunch of use cases. You should definitely work on getting an API together. I could see people…",[218,230,235],{"value":219,"source":87,"evidence":220},"How does the seller receive money and what are the fees?",[221,225,229],{"id":222,"by":223,"text":224},"34070488","99failures","so OK. How do I, the publisher, get my money? A FAQ would be nice.",{"id":226,"by":227,"text":228},"34071458","O__________O","Anyone able to comment on what fees they’re charging and onboarding process? So far for the onboarding process I have: - signup by giving email and password; does not appear to…",{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},{"value":231,"source":87,"evidence":232},"How are chargebacks and disputes handled?",[233,234],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},{"value":236,"source":87,"evidence":237},"Does the link check the destination URL and ownership?",[238,242],{"id":239,"by":240,"text":241},"34073957","blacksmith_tb","It would be a plus if paidlink.to actually made a call to the link before accepting payment, and put up a warning \u002F stopped the transaction if it didn't get a 200, \"We're sorry…",{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},[244,251,256,263,274],{"value":245,"source":87,"evidence":246},"Stripe payment links",[247],{"id":248,"by":249,"text":250},"34068475","levpopov","Cool idea, but it'd be great to add an explanation for choosing this over Stripe payment links (https:\u002F\u002Fstripe.com\u002Fpayments\u002Fpayment-links). For Stripe, you can configure a…",{"value":252,"source":87,"evidence":253},"Gumroad",[254,255],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},{"value":257,"source":87,"evidence":258},"Easy Digital Downloads for WordPress",[259],{"id":260,"by":261,"text":262},"34067421","dotBen","If you want this functionality on a WordPress-powered site, which is one of the use cases stated, this is the industry standard way of doing this within the WP world:…",{"value":264,"source":87,"evidence":265},"Adfly",[266,270],{"id":267,"by":268,"text":269},"34072063","rozab","This is absolutely nothing new. Adfly (adf.ly) was the popular version of this 10 years ago. Often modders would put their mediafire links behind adfly to get a little revenue.",{"id":271,"by":272,"text":273},"34071010","Alifatisk","So this is like AdFly?",{"value":275,"source":87,"evidence":276},"Monetized.Link",[277],{"id":278,"by":279,"text":280},"34070895","mankins","I created a similar service to this called Monetized.Link https:\u002F\u002Fwww.monetized.link\u002F ...We describe it as if you put together a tiny url and a paywall. From what I've seen…",{"comments":44,"answered":46,"key":282},[283,284,285],{"id":79,"text":80},{"id":62,"text":63},{"id":286,"text":287},"34076289","Update: Pushed a fresher design to the home page, which will be coming to the other pages soon. 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