[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":601},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-34908528":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":29,"sentiment":30,"stance_mix":31,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":46,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":94,"maker_in_thread":197,"shape":205,"grid":210,"attempts":562,"same_week":563,"maker_shows":41,"maker_hidden":593,"reader_version":594,"card":595},"34908528","Mox","Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server","title","Show HN: Mox - Modern full-featured low-maintenance self-hosted mail server","https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fmjl-\u002Fmox","github.com","mjl-",1677144023,2023,471,130,62,3109,2,"legend","infrastructure","mail server","other",[24,25,26,27,28],"self-hosted mail server","smtp server","imap server","dkim","go mail server","mixed",0.055,{"positive":32,"neutral":33,"mixed":18,"critical":34},10,16,7,35,{"idea":37,"execution":40,"design":42,"performance":44,"privacy":45},{"positive":38,"critical":39},8,4,{"positive":41,"critical":41},1,{"positive":41,"critical":43},0,{"positive":43,"critical":43},{"positive":43,"critical":43},[47,41,48,41,47,47,43,43,43,43,43,43,43,43,43,47,47,43,43,43,43,43,47,41,43,48,48,47,48,47,47,47,43,41,47,48,47,48,47,47],3,5,null,{"problem":51,"audience":63,"pricing":49,"motivation":71,"time_to_build":78,"stack":84,"openness":91,"stage":92,"team_size":93},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"Running your own email server is hard to configure and keep working","commenter",[55,59],{"id":56,"by":57,"text":58},"34908721","c0l0","This project's scope is rather impressive, and from what I've gleaned from skimming its docs, it might be the perfect solution for people who want to self-host email. It tries to…",{"id":60,"by":61,"text":62},"34908914","p4bl0","The project looks cool! However, I think the hard part of self-hosting email is not the tech stack, it's getting email delivered to your recipients using Google or Microsoft…",{"value":64,"source":53,"evidence":65},"People who want to self-host email",[66,67],{"id":56,"by":57,"text":58},{"id":68,"by":69,"text":70},"34910861","theK","Wow, impressive feature set! How long was the incubation time of this project? I see that the initial git commit already contains quite a lot :-) I think this server hits a very…",{"value":72,"source":73,"evidence":74},"Make it easy to host mail yourself instead of relying on large providers","maker",[75],{"id":76,"by":11,"text":77},"34911898","> Also, webmail, calendaring are future features in this product. I wonder how critical are those for people setting up their own email. I wonder the same. 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