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How do I \"buy\" the instances using usage.ai instead of AWS? Do you need…",{"id":128,"by":109,"text":129},"34989267","How does the buyback program work for your new releases (RDS, Elasticache, OpenSearch, DynamoDB)? I use the EC2 RI Marketplace but I can't find one for the other products…",{"value":131,"source":74,"evidence":132},"Support for Google Cloud and Azure",[133,137],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"34988801","xur17","Any plans to launch this product on Google Cloud?",{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"34989931","simonswords82","Is there a similar service out there for Azure? (Who just put their uk prices up by 9 percent)",[142],{"value":143,"source":74,"evidence":144},"What happens to reservations if Usage goes out of business",[145,149],{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"34990125","femto113","Curious what happens to resources and reservations if Usage goes out of business? Three years is actually a pretty long horizon to rely on a startup still being around.",{"id":150,"by":147,"text":151},"34992232","Yes I was thinking about this from a customer's perspective. 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