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Fandalism won't be good for that. Rather, Fandalism is designed to…",{"value":53,"source":47,"evidence":54},"Musicians",[55],{"id":50,"by":11,"text":51},{"value":57,"source":47,"evidence":58},"Maker wanted a community of musicians showing their chops, like Dribbble for musicians; earlier 2006 version was a music sharing site.",[59,60],{"id":50,"by":11,"text":51},{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},"3559424","In 2006 I had a different site at the same domain. The old Fandalism (\"YouTube for music\") was basically exactly what SoundCloud is today. Except that people starting uploading a…",[64],{"value":65,"source":47,"evidence":66},"Twitter Bootstrap",[67],{"id":68,"by":11,"text":69},"3559441","Twitter Boostrap was a godsend for me. My design skills are relatively weak but Boostrap really helps make the site's design passable.","unknown","beta",{"praise":73,"objections":93,"requests":126,"questions":147,"alternatives":159},[74,86],{"value":75,"source":76,"evidence":77},"Good idea and well put together","commenter",[78,82],{"id":79,"by":80,"text":81},"3560226","thenewgreen","I think it's a great idea and looks like it's well put together. You may have seen my criticism above about how to \"login\", this is more a criticism of FB, not fandalism (but…",{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"3559357","revorad","pud, I'm impressed with your product-shipping record. This looks really cool too, I'll be sure to pass it on to all my musician friends.",{"value":87,"source":76,"evidence":88},"Bootstrap-based design looks good",[89],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"3559392","joshmanders","Love the use and customizations of the Twitter Bootstrap, pud.",[94,108,119],{"value":95,"source":76,"evidence":96},"Requiring Facebook Connect for login and sharing is a turn-off and too many permissions",[97,101,104],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"3559497","sambeau","It looked good until I needed to agree to all this before I could actually see how it worked: * Access my basic information: Includes name, Profile picture, gender, networks,…",{"id":102,"by":99,"text":103},"3559742","Is there no way to do it with less? I just get very twitchy when I see that level of permission. We're getting to the stage where a FB profile is important to life, work, family……",{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"3559308","randomdrake","You should re-consider making Facebook your only option for logging in and signing up. http:\u002F\u002Fbijansabet.com\u002Fpost\u002F16980728547\u002Fwhy-facebook-connect-shouldnt-be-your-only-sign-in…",{"value":109,"source":76,"evidence":110},"Unclear what problem it solves; musicians use YouTube, Facebook, SoundCloud, Bandcamp instead",[111,115],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"3559588","iamgilesbowkett","I'm sorry but I think this is a failure of strategy. Musicians use social networks to reach existing fans and acquire new ones. Speaking as a musician, ten years ago we were all…",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"3560256","rgbrgb","I'm also kind of lost on what problem this is trying to solve. Connecting bands to fans? Connecting bands to bands? 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The main problem in comparing with sites like dribbble and devian art is that you are dealing with two very different senses. One…",[148,155],{"value":149,"source":76,"evidence":150},"How did you get people to engage with the site?",[151],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"3559439","freshlog","Wow. Just 12 days ago? How did you get people to engage with the site? 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