[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":322},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-35817906":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":29,"sentiment":30,"stance_mix":31,"scored_comments":36,"aspects":37,"strip":46,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":96,"maker_in_thread":186,"shape":195,"grid":199,"attempts":283,"same_week":284,"maker_shows":33,"maker_hidden":314,"reader_version":315,"card":316},"35817906","Chat with Fiction","Ask Harry Potter any question with GPT-4","title","Show HN: Ask Harry Potter any question with GPT-4","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.chatwithfiction.com\u002F","chatwithfiction.com","shahahmed",1683217240,2023,16,38,1874,3109,61,"shown","ai","character chatbot","web_app",[24,25,26,27,28],"gpt-4","character chat","harry potter","system prompt","chatbot","roasted",-0.633,{"positive":32,"neutral":33,"mixed":34,"critical":35},0,6,1,19,26,{"execution":38,"privacy":40,"performance":41,"idea":42,"pricing":44},{"positive":32,"critical":39},9,{"positive":32,"critical":34},{"positive":32,"critical":32},{"positive":32,"critical":43},5,{"positive":32,"critical":45},4,[34,32,34,32,34,34,32,47,34,34,34,32,47,32,34,32,47,34,34,34,34,34,34,34,32,34,47,32,47,32,47,32,32,47,32,34,34,34],3,"I've enjoyed using CharacterAI a lot, and I also use OpenAI's API's for work and personal projects.  I wanted to see if I could get the model to behave as believably as CharacterAI counterparts with just a system prompt - and I think it does.  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