[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":928},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-35976488":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":20,"keywords":22,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":49,"post_text":51,"what":52,"said":101,"maker_in_thread":249,"shape":259,"grid":263,"attempts":890,"same_week":891,"maker_shows":455,"maker_hidden":920,"reader_version":921,"card":922},"35976488","Beepberry","a portable e-paper computer for hackers","title","Show HN: Beepberry – a portable e-paper computer for hackers","https:\u002F\u002Fbeepberry.sqfmi.com\u002F","beepberry.sqfmi.com","erohead",1684336433,2023,731,227,16,3109,1,"legend","hardware","portable e-paper chat device",[23,24,25,26,27],"e-paper","raspberry pi zero","beeper","matrix chat","hackable device","mixed",0.138,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},42,64,7,25,138,{"performance":37,"design":39,"execution":42,"docs":44,"idea":45,"pricing":48},{"positive":38,"critical":33},0,{"positive":40,"critical":41},11,5,{"positive":38,"critical":43},2,{"positive":43,"critical":41},{"positive":46,"critical":47},21,4,{"positive":18,"critical":18},[18,43,43,18,50,18,43,50,50,47,47,50,41,38,50,47,41,41,47,41,41,47,41,47,43,38,38,47,18,50,47,47,47,50,41,50,43,18,41,47],3,"Hi. I heard HN likes e-paper gadgets so I wanted to share a little side project I’ve been working on with @sqfmi. We’re building Beepberry - a portable e-paper computer for hackers, designed for chatting on Beeper. My day job is running Beeper [0], but I will always have a soft spot for building hardware.\n\nI wanted to create a ‘weekend’ device that would let me stay in touch with friends and family, without the distractions of a full smartphone. I imagined a tiny, hackable e-paper screen with a physical keyboard, powered by a Raspberry Pi, that I could use to chat around my home…and pretty muc",{"problem":53,"audience":59,"pricing":67,"motivation":71,"time_to_build":75,"stack":76,"openness":98,"stage":99,"team_size":100},{"value":54,"source":55,"evidence":56},"Lets people stay in touch via chat without a full smartphone's distractions","maker",[57],{"id":58},"post",{"value":60,"source":55,"evidence":61},"hackers and people wanting a weekend chat device",[62,63],{"id":58},{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},"35976667","sqfmi","Hey SQFMI here! Happy to answer any questions :)",{"value":68,"source":55,"evidence":69},"$79, or $99 with a Pi Zero",[70],{"id":58},{"value":72,"source":55,"evidence":73},"Maker wanted a hackable weekend device for staying in touch with friends and family",[74],{"id":58},null,[77,84,90,94],{"value":78,"source":55,"evidence":79},"Raspberry Pi Zero W",[80,81],{"id":58},{"id":82,"by":11,"text":83},"35978541","It's basically impossible to get any Pis these day - we were able to score a bunch of Pi Zero W so that's what we're including for now, but it's fully compatible with any 'zero'…",{"value":85,"source":55,"evidence":86},"RP2040",[87],{"id":88,"by":11,"text":89},"35982927","First off - this thing was designed to be a fun hacker toy, not a real product. Buyer beware! Plan for power management is pretty simple - trim as much fat from OS startup…",{"value":91,"source":55,"evidence":92},"Sharp Memory LCD",[93],{"id":58},{"value":95,"source":55,"evidence":96},"Matrix",[97],{"id":58},"unknown","prototype","team",{"praise":102,"objections":130,"requests":160,"questions":191,"alternatives":226},[103,119],{"value":104,"source":105,"evidence":106},"Physical keyboard and form factor appeal","commenter",[107,111,115],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"35980039","user3939382","To borrow from Jerry Maguire: you had me at physical qwerty.",{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"35979025","boomskats","Awesome, you're my hero. I just ordered two of these. It looks to be using the same Q10 keyboard as a few of the other hacks (i.e. Fairberry[0], but with the addition of the…",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"35978551","KingOfCoders","Thanks! Ordered two.",{"value":120,"source":105,"evidence":121},"Hackable and fun for DIY projects",[122,126],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"35976984","rsre","This is amazing! A hacker friendly Cybiko\u002FTwitterPeek with the power of Matrix. Feels like the ultimate chat device.",{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"35981449","bodge5000","Have been wanting to get a device just like this for a long time to do live-coding (Glicol) on. So glad you had the foresight to expose the rpi pins so I can just stick an audio…",[131,142,153],{"value":132,"source":105,"evidence":133},"Pi Zero makes battery life poor and power management questionable",[134,138],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"35980709","kragen","i almost didn't open this because it said 'e-paper' and i've sort of dismissed e-paper for this kind of thing this is much more interesting than an e-paper device; it's a…",{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"35978460","syntaxing","Love the idea but a Zero W is pretty underwhelming. I have couple and it’s barely useful because of the single core limitations. I’m guessing it’s a supply chain issue? Also,…",{"value":143,"source":105,"evidence":144},"Preorder wording and shipping timeline confusing",[145,149],{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"35979376","jbm","I love the product but I take issue with the term \"Order now\" on the website. > Below is the shipping timeline for Beepberry: > Beepberry without Raspberry Pi Zero W: ~ August…",{"id":150,"by":151,"text":152},"35979606","Animats","At least it's only $99. Sadly, it's not a shipping product yet. It's a \"preorder\".",{"value":154,"source":105,"evidence":155},"Lack of radio beyond Wi-Fi\u002FBluetooth",[156],{"id":157,"by":158,"text":159},"35981918","myself248","Aye, the \"diagram\" shows nothing of the topology. Can the rp2040 run the show with the Zero not even attached? That would be interesting. Furthermore, there's no radio other than…",[161,172,183],{"value":162,"source":105,"evidence":163},"Add LoRa support",[164,168],{"id":165,"by":166,"text":167},"35978827","deegles","I would love to hook this up to a LoRa receiver and use it around town, will be fun to hack on.",{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"35985281","BiteCode_dev","With lora support, it would make for a nice off the grid communication device.",{"value":173,"source":105,"evidence":174},"Sell a case or battery version",[175,179],{"id":176,"by":177,"text":178},"35978639","rwl4","I've ordered my share of little Linux gadgets. I said no more because they were wholly impractical. Well, congrats, you just caused me to pull out my wallet and buy. This looks…",{"id":180,"by":181,"text":182},"35979249","throwaway894345","This seems super cool; have you considered selling a model with a battery and case? I would think that would be far more useful to most?",{"value":184,"source":105,"evidence":185},"Support for ESP32 instead of Pi Zero",[186,190],{"id":187,"by":188,"text":189},"35982101","deepspace","Spot on. I was so excited to see the form factor, and then my excitement was deflated as soon as I noticed the component details. Note to any hardware hackers out there: I would…",{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},[192,203,213],{"value":193,"source":105,"evidence":194},"What is battery life?",[195,199],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"35980155","MrBruh","Could someone tell me how many hours of battery life you could get out of it?",{"id":200,"by":201,"text":202},"35980144","conor_f","I love the form factor here. A few questions: 1) Have you considered how this could be made more mobile friendly? Most places I could see myself using a device like this, I…",{"value":204,"source":105,"evidence":205},"Does it work with Pi Zero 2 W?",[206,210],{"id":207,"by":208,"text":209},"35981888","nmstoker","Seems to only mention Zero W directly, but would a Zero 2 W also work? Kind of expecting it would but thought it better to check",{"id":211,"by":11,"text":212},"35982889","works great with pi zero 2. Needs a front-light to see in low light.",{"value":214,"source":105,"evidence":215},"Can it use an external keyboard or LTE\u002FGSM?",[216,219,223],{"id":217,"by":136,"text":218},"35983023","this is more promising but you forgot the keyboard can you plug in an external keyboard",{"id":220,"by":221,"text":222},"35985028","pkphilip","What is the possibility of connecting a GSM module and using this for making and receiving calls and staying connected on the go?",{"id":224,"by":11,"text":225},"35980388","1) maybe? this is just a hacker device for now. You can easily add a USB LTE modem if you'd like. 2) battery life will depend on which OS you use, peripherals, software duty…",[227,238,242],{"value":228,"source":105,"evidence":229},"Precursor (Sutajio Kosagi)",[230,234],{"id":231,"by":232,"text":233},"35980935","vhodges","A lot pricier of course but there's https:\u002F\u002Fwww.crowdsupply.com\u002Fsutajio-kosagi\u002Fprecursor too for the same kind of uses this is for.",{"id":235,"by":236,"text":237},"35984939","rtpg","A fancy expensive version of this concept exists as the Precursor. All open, built off of some FPGAs, though with a much bigger security focus",{"value":239,"source":105,"evidence":240},"Fairberry",[241],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},{"value":243,"source":105,"evidence":244},"Zipit wireless messenger",[245],{"id":246,"by":247,"text":248},"35984904","zeckalpha","A predecessor to this concept: https:\u002F\u002Fen.m.wikipedia.org\u002Fwiki\u002FZipit_wireless_messenger_(Z2)",{"comments":250,"answered":33,"key":251},12,[252,253,256],{"id":88,"text":89},{"id":254,"text":255},"35984186","> does that mean that every time you hit a key (after the idle timeout) you have to wait 5 seconds for the pi to boot, wasting 5 more precious joules (a minute of active usage…",{"id":257,"text":258},"35991741","I think you are misunderstanding the plan. The device will stay on until you turn it off, or 5 mins after last 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