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I'm an engineer who's been hacking on an open source project called Micro for the past eight years (https:\u002F\u002Fmicro.dev). In that time I've done a lot of things, all Dev related but ultimately most of my career was spent working on platforms for consumer products. After many attempts I've decided the path forward is to focus on building something that solves my own problem. Micro Chat is a solution to some of the social media problems I've been having.\n\nWhat I've been looking for most of my life is a community. A place to belong. I scoured the internet for that with strangers.",{"problem":48,"audience":57,"pricing":64,"motivation":65,"time_to_build":64,"stack":70,"openness":79,"stage":80,"team_size":81},{"value":49,"source":50,"evidence":51},"No good place to build small private communities and group connections","maker",[52,54],{"id":53},"post",{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},"36142537","Thanks for the feedback. I guess my issue is, as a user of slack, discord, twitter, WhatsApp and other chat products, they have never really solved my community problems. Discord…",{"value":58,"source":50,"evidence":59},"Small private groups of friends, family, and interest communities",[60,63],{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},"36142629","Thanks, I'll take those comments on board. I literally just posted it as soon as I thought it was ready to go. I think the big elephant in the room is definitely how you get…",{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},null,{"value":66,"source":50,"evidence":67},"Maker wants a private place for small communities and to consolidate group chats",[68,69],{"id":53},{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},[71],{"value":72,"source":73,"evidence":74},"Go (Micro open source framework behind the product)","commenter",[75],{"id":76,"by":77,"text":78},"36144657","srameshc","I really admire Asim's work probably know him for his Go microservices thing. I was quite excited about the developer platform he was building and the microservices platform…","unknown","prototype","solo",{"praise":83,"objections":102,"requests":141,"questions":167,"alternatives":188},[84,91],{"value":85,"source":73,"evidence":86},"Clean, snappy, simple interface",[87],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"36144185","huhtenberg","Very clean, super snappy, no external dependencies. Excellent first impression. Compliments to the chef. That said, this needs a self-hosted option to be truly useful. One, for…",{"value":92,"source":73,"evidence":93},"Human-focused, no bots counter to AI trend",[94,98],{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"36142663","apsurd","> I think the tech and the product will evolve but only by finding out if others feel the same. 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Right now the landing page is sparse and I have no idea of what the experience will be like.…",{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"36142236","dominick-cc","I wish the code repository was linked from the website to make it easier to find. It would be nice to see some screenshots of feature details without having to sign into your…",{"value":119,"source":73,"evidence":120},"No clear difference from Signal, WhatsApp, Discord, or Slack",[121,125],{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"36142437","bruceb","Here is some straight forward feedback and advice. There is no compelling reason to use your chat as of now. Look at the first 3 things you talk about. Private. 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Check the logs for your application in the App Platform dashboard.",{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"36148664","tony-allan","ditto",[142,150,155,163],{"value":143,"source":73,"evidence":144},"Self-hosted option",[145,146],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"36145736","skykooler","Moving parts are less of an issue if you could build it into a Docker container.",{"value":151,"source":73,"evidence":152},"Screenshots and clearer messaging",[153,154],{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},{"value":156,"source":73,"evidence":157},"Privacy policy and terms linked from landing page",[158,159],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},{"id":160,"by":161,"text":162},"36142273","bmarquez","This sounds pretty awesome, like a private Discord server or replacement for Facebook groups that's actually private (assuming it can be self-hosted or encrypted). One thing I…",{"value":164,"source":73,"evidence":165},"Link to source code",[166],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},[168,175,181],{"value":169,"source":73,"evidence":170},"Will it be monetized or have premium offerings?",[171],{"id":172,"by":173,"text":174},"36143775","lagniappe","This is really cool! Do you have plans to start charging for this service eventually or any premium offerings?",{"value":176,"source":73,"evidence":177},"Is it end-to-end encrypted?",[178],{"id":179,"by":11,"text":180},"36142325","Yes this is a proof of concept. I'm just trying to figure out what the core features should be and whether other people will be interested too. 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