[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":605},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-36301337":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":29,"sentiment":30,"stance_mix":31,"scored_comments":36,"aspects":37,"strip":47,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":66,"maker_in_thread":209,"shape":220,"grid":224,"attempts":566,"same_week":567,"maker_shows":46,"maker_hidden":597,"reader_version":598,"card":599},"36301337","Zsync","A Reddit Alternative with the Goal to Reward Quality Comments","title","Show HN: Zsync, a Reddit Alternative with the Goal to Reward Quality Comments","https:\u002F\u002Fzsync.xyz\u002F","zsync.xyz","JSavageOne",1686604893,2023,207,124,267,3109,9,"notable","web_saas","social discussion platform","web_app",[24,25,26,27,28],"reddit alternative","quality comments","tags","crypto tipping","online community","roasted",-0.474,{"positive":32,"neutral":33,"mixed":34,"critical":35},6,15,7,37,65,{"idea":38,"execution":41,"design":44},{"positive":39,"critical":40},4,21,{"positive":42,"critical":43},0,5,{"positive":45,"critical":46},2,1,[46,42,42,46,42,48,46,42,46,46,48,46,45,46,46,46,46,46,46,48,42,42,48,46,46,42,42,46,46,48,39,46,45,46,46,46,48,46,43,46],3,"I built this last year but never posted it anywhere, but now with Reddit hiatus it seems like the right time to give it a shot.\n\nThe main goal of zsync is to foster high quality content and discussion. That's it. If it can't accomplish that, then to me it is a failure. I watched Reddit go from having high quality discussion in 2008-9 to devolving into the PC meme dumpster it is today [1]. HN still has the highest discussion quality of any \"forum\" I know of, but (1) it can sometimes randomly be very hostile\u002Ftoxic to new tech, the most glaring example being crypto. (2) HN is basically a single s",{"problem":51,"audience":57,"pricing":57,"motivation":58,"time_to_build":57,"stack":62,"openness":63,"stage":64,"team_size":65},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"Reddit discussion quality has declined; subreddits force cross-posting","maker",[55],{"id":56},"post",null,{"value":59,"source":53,"evidence":60},"Dissatisfaction with Reddit quality and wish for better online communities",[61],{"id":56},[],"unknown","beta","solo",{"praise":67,"objections":84,"requests":136,"questions":169,"alternatives":191},[68,80],{"value":69,"source":70,"evidence":71},"Optional crypto tipping and anti-censorship stance noted as interesting","commenter",[72,76],{"id":73,"by":74,"text":75},"36310090","prohobo","What in the world is going on here? Why is there so much hate for this project? Adding optional ETH donations is cool. I have no idea if it'll work well, but it's cool to try.…",{"id":77,"by":78,"text":79},"36304086","username923409","Cool idea, I think Ethereum wallets as accounts have good potential to be an elegant solution to spam\u002Fbot prevention. I, too, remember the times when Reddit fostered high(er)…",{"value":81,"source":70,"evidence":82},"Ethereum wallet accounts could help against spam and bots",[83],{"id":77,"by":78,"text":79},[85,96,104,116,128],{"value":86,"source":70,"evidence":87},"Front page is spam-filled",[88,92],{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},"36302581","bhaney","Appreciate the anti-censorship stance in theory, but involving cryptocurrencies and hoping that AI some day fixes all your discoverability issues are pretty big red flags to me.…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"36304549","xtagon","I hope you take this constructively but none of the design decisions you've described sound like they have any chance of working toward your stated goal of fostering high quality…",{"value":97,"source":70,"evidence":98},"Tags are not a substitute for subreddits",[99,103],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"36302456","heisenzombie","I have two slightly challenging comments, which I hope you will take as constructive prodding to clarify your thinking. Firstly, you have a bit of dissonance in your thinking…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},{"value":105,"source":70,"evidence":106},"Crypto tips are a weak incentive for quality and feel scammy",[107,111,115],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"36303018","eli","I don’t want anything to do with cryptocurrency (each time I tip someone am I creating a taxable transaction?). I’m not even sure what problem it’s solving. Reddit incentivized…",{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"36304390","schmichael","Monetizing content does not increase its “quality” in some absolute sense. Monetizing content causes creators to create the content that monetizes the best. Long thoughtful posts…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},{"value":117,"source":70,"evidence":118},"Lack of moderation or censorship will let spam and abuse through",[119,120,124],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"36304038","nl","Why do people all say \"I don't believe in censorship\" and then fail to address the fact that the best online communities all aggressively moderate. There's clearly value in…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"36306162","kaba0","Besides the already mentioned subreddits != tags, I also find the “high quality discussion” goal questionable in this idealistic form. There is time for fun, and while some jokes…",{"value":129,"source":70,"evidence":130},"ML-based sorting and recommendations are undesirable",[131,135],{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"36302385","dabluecaboose",">In the future, we could use ML to offer options to sort comments in more useful ways, such as by sorting by \"most insightful\". We could determine based on your upvote history…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},[137,145,157,162],{"value":138,"source":70,"evidence":139},"Add moderation and spam filtering",[140,141],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"36302846","kodah","A couple things: - Censorship is okay. Having a high bar for censorship is what places like HN are founded on. Setting guidelines is a good course of action for that. 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Great job —…",[170,177,184],{"value":171,"source":70,"evidence":172},"What financial incentive does crypto tipping actually create for quality?",[173],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"36303183","aw1621107","> Anyone who connects an ethereum wallet to their account will also have a (non-invasive) \"Tip\" option at the bottom of their comment, allowing anyone to directly tip commenters…",{"value":178,"source":70,"evidence":179},"Will it scale?",[180],{"id":181,"by":182,"text":183},"36302376","donmcronald","I saw it just before someone started spamming it. I like the idea of posts that can have multiple tags. Will it scale?",{"value":185,"source":70,"evidence":186},"Why Ethereum rather than a lower-fee chain?",[187],{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"36302572","diego_sandoval","Some thoughts: 1. The concept of subreddits may seem restrictive, but it's also good at filtering low-effort content when you want a more curated experience. If you allow anyone…",[192,197,202],{"value":193,"source":70,"evidence":194},"Reddit",[195,196],{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},{"value":198,"source":70,"evidence":199},"Hacker News",[200,201],{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},{"value":203,"source":70,"evidence":204},"Voat and Truth Social",[205],{"id":206,"by":207,"text":208},"36309179","criley2","I find it hard to reconcile \"reddit is hostile to things like crypto\" and \"I don't believe in censorship\". If you don't believe in censorship, then you should celebrate redditors…",{"comments":18,"answered":48,"key":210},[211,214,217],{"id":212,"text":213},"36307814","Why couldn't this be accomplished through tags? For example instead of going to the \u002Fr\u002Fdigitalnomad subreddit, you can view the digital nomad tag…",{"id":215,"text":216},"36307700","Fair point on the active moderation. I've never moderated a community before so I have no idea how much work goes into it, perhaps I'm drastically underestimating it. For example…",{"id":218,"text":219},"36308150","Yea that's why I'm not even mad about it. 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