[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":405},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-3685643":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":45,"post_text":47,"what":48,"said":85,"maker_in_thread":232,"shape":239,"grid":243,"attempts":367,"same_week":368,"maker_shows":31,"maker_hidden":397,"reader_version":398,"card":399},"3685643","Airgram","Send iOS\u002FAndroid notifications, without building an app","title","Show HN: Airgram - Send iOS\u002FAndroid notifications, without building an app","http:\u002F\u002Fwww.airgramapp.com","airgramapp.com","navneetloiwal",1331322860,2012,121,54,164,1677,10,"notable","infrastructure","push notification service","api",[24,25,26,27],"push notifications","ios notifications","android notifications","notification api","curious",-0.202,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},1,13,4,6,24,{"design":37,"idea":39,"pricing":41,"execution":42,"privacy":43,"docs":44},{"positive":38,"critical":31},0,{"positive":31,"critical":40},2,{"positive":38,"critical":31},{"positive":38,"critical":31},{"positive":38,"critical":38},{"positive":38,"critical":31},[46,38,46,38,38,38,38,31,46,38,46,46,46,38,31,31,38,38,46,31,46,46,38,38,38,38,38,38,46,46,46,46,46,46,46,31,46,38,38,38],3,null,{"problem":49,"audience":56,"pricing":64,"motivation":74,"time_to_build":47,"stack":81,"openness":82,"stage":83,"team_size":84},{"value":50,"source":51,"evidence":52},"Lets services send push notifications to mobile users without building their own app","maker",[53],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},"3685686","Push notifications are a great way to consume time-sensitive information, like price\u002Fairfare, sports, stocks, app reviews, etc. Airgram makes it dead-simple to deliver these…",{"value":57,"source":51,"evidence":58},"Web services that want to send time-sensitive alerts to mobile users",[59,60],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"3687132","Roedou","I would really like to send mobile push notifications to users of my service. (I send emails and\u002For SMS right now.) Developing an iPhone & Android app - even a simple one that…",{"value":65,"source":51,"evidence":66},"Maker says app is free for now, with premium features possibly later; commenters worried about sustainability",[67,70],{"id":68,"by":11,"text":69},"3686160","Neat app you have, there. We are not planning to charge for the apps, but keep a look out for premium features on Airgram.",{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"3685934","jwr","Thanks! It's refreshing to have such an open conversation and you deserve high praise for it. I can now look for an alternative. As to Airgram, I'm worried because I don't see…",{"value":75,"source":51,"evidence":76},"Make push notifications easy for services and bridge native and mobile web apps",[77,80],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},"3685999","We believe that mobile web apps need to become much more powerful than they are today. Developing native apps for various platforms is not easy, and frankly, unnecessary for most…",{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},[],"unknown","launched","team",{"praise":86,"objections":107,"requests":149,"questions":177,"alternatives":201},[87,103],{"value":88,"source":89,"evidence":90},"Simple to use and looks nice","commenter",[91,95,99],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"3685726","mirsadm","I'm running it on my Android phone now. It works pretty well. I wish it uses Facebook\u002FGoogle\u002Fetc. for user accounts though. The last thing I want to have to do is have another…",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"3685870","joering2","there, I like your design better, since I am comparing to Airgram right now: immediately I can see how it looks on the mobile device screen because you provide an image, AND I…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"3685791","there","Congrats on the app, it looks nice. I launched Pushover (https:\u002F\u002Fpushover.net\u002F) this week, which looks to be pretty much the same exact product as yours: an HTTP API to push…",{"value":104,"source":89,"evidence":105},"Fills a need for services without mobile apps",[106],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},[108,123,134,143],{"value":109,"source":89,"evidence":110},"Users reluctant to install another app just to receive notifications",[111,115,119],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"3686575","FuzzyDunlop","And I wouldn't install another app to receive a third-party implementation of push notifications. If I install any app, I do not expect to have to download dependencies to make…",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"3686691","godfreykfc","I am really skeptical (though I'd be more than happy to see someone prove me wrong) about these \"framework\" apps, that doesn't actualy do anything by itself, except to provide an…",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"3685884","nchuhoai","users are not gonna download the app unless many services are using his api, and not many services are gonna use his api unless there is a big user base ... sounds like a prime…",{"value":124,"source":89,"evidence":125},"Chicken-and-egg adoption problem",[126,129,130],{"id":127,"by":121,"text":128},"3685749","I like the idea of unified notifications, but ultimately you have the chicken-egg problem, and for that you need to find an entry point. I'm working on the same problem and…",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"3686096","jazzychad","This is not as easy as it sounds (speaking from experience). The chicken-egg problem is huge in this type of service.",{"value":135,"source":89,"evidence":136},"Unclear how the service makes money; worry it will be free and disappear",[137,138,139],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"3686062","LokiSnake","Charging for the app will work for the DIY hacker types, but it'll be hard for other services to convince their users to purchase your app.",{"value":144,"source":89,"evidence":145},"No quiet hours setting",[146],{"id":147,"by":72,"text":148},"3685964","Ok, so having tried the app — I won't actually use it until there is a \"quiet hours\" setting. Notifo got that perfectly right: there are certain hours where I do not want to be…",[150,157,167,171],{"value":151,"source":89,"evidence":152},"Quiet hours setting",[153,154],{"id":147,"by":72,"text":148},{"id":155,"by":11,"text":156},"3686004","Yes, absolutely. Quiet hours will show up in a day!",{"value":158,"source":89,"evidence":159},"Subscriber count visibility for service owners",[160,164],{"id":161,"by":162,"text":163},"3686302","rasmusbe","would be nice if I, as a Service Owner, could see how many subscribers the service has.",{"id":165,"by":11,"text":166},"3686815","This first version is light on management features for the service owner because we wanted to get it out early to get feedback. What you suggest is absolutely on our list of…",{"value":168,"source":89,"evidence":169},"Login via Facebook or Google accounts",[170],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},{"value":172,"source":89,"evidence":173},"Ability to delete notifications in the app",[174],{"id":175,"by":132,"text":176},"3685892","Bug report: I created my own service (couldn't update the image because I can't be bothered to resize an image to 84x84 myself, can't you do that?), and subscribed myself to it.…",[178,186,197],{"value":179,"source":89,"evidence":180},"How does this differ from Notifo?",[181,185],{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"3685700","huhtenberg","Can you explain how Airgram compares to (now deceased) Notifo?",{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},{"value":187,"source":89,"evidence":188},"What is the privacy policy and are messages stored?",[189,193],{"id":190,"by":191,"text":192},"3686515","Splines","Just curious - what's your privacy policy? 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