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It says it's not an Electron app, but GitHub says it's written in TypeScript, so what UI toolkit does it use? EDIT: Never mind this is mentioned in the technical…",{"value":62,"source":55,"evidence":63},"Yue UI toolkit",[64],{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},"36913977","ricklamers","The UI toolkit it uses is Yue which I hadn’t heard of: https:\u002F\u002Flibyue.com\u002Fdocs\u002Flatest\u002Fjs\u002F","open_source","unknown",{"praise":71,"objections":90,"requests":128,"questions":143,"alternatives":169},[72,83],{"value":73,"source":55,"evidence":74},"Not an Electron app; native performance",[75,79],{"id":76,"by":77,"text":78},"36911309","pjmlp","Kudos for taking the effort of not being yet another Electron app.",{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},"36912707","broast","I like how it's now a feature to not be an electron or webview app.",{"value":84,"source":55,"evidence":85},"Looks great and worth trying",[86],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"36907089","iamjackg","Looks great! Very excited to try this out. At first glance I have one concern and one suggestion: Concern: you mention it supports the actual ChatGPT Web API -- isn't this…",[91,102,110,117],{"value":92,"source":55,"evidence":93},"Hit quota error when using the OpenAI API key",[94,98],{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"36911147","hedgehog","I tried it and got the error \"You exceeded your current quota, please check your plan and billing details.\"",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"36913326","qwerty456127","Hi. This is the first time I'm trying an external app. I created an ChatGPT API key and configured it in Chie. Once I tried asking ChatGPT it immediately replied \"You exceeded…",{"value":103,"source":55,"evidence":104},"Uses ChatGPT private web API, risking bans and ToS issues",[105,106],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"36910061","capableweb","> Concern: you mention it supports the actual ChatGPT Web API -- isn't this against their terms of service? I'd be wary of publishing something that hits internal APIs. There…",{"value":111,"source":55,"evidence":112},"Subscription pricing plan for GPT-4 seen as unappealing",[113],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"36910520","nickthegreek","Your 'future plan' section says you want provide a subscription plan for gpt-4. Why would I pay a subscription to access my other subscription, especially when its a feature you…",{"value":118,"source":55,"evidence":119},"Claimed not-a-webview is misleading since chat messages render in a system webview",[120,124],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"36923329","nateb2022","That was kind of a lie, however. > NOT a webview wrapper of web pages. but further down the page: > The chat messages are rendered in a system webview. To minimize performance…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"36916504","chillbill","so it is in a large part a web view > The chat messages are rendered in a system webview.",[129,136],{"value":130,"source":55,"evidence":131},"Support local LLMs such as LLaMa",[132],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"36938982","Oranguru","Great job! In the future, would you add support for local LLMs, such as LLaMa?",{"value":137,"source":55,"evidence":138},"Add a plugin for Petals",[139],{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"36916843","cchance","would be cool if there was a plugin for petals (https:\u002F\u002Fpetals.dev\u002F)",[144,155],{"value":145,"source":55,"evidence":146},"Is the GPL3 to MIT relicense and contributor agreement fair",[147,151],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},"36913442","homarp","Chie is currently licensed under the GPLv3, it will be relicensed to the MIT license on March 20th, 2028 (5 years after the first commit). I take this approach to discourage…",{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"36915356","epylar","The agreement doesn't mention that it's just for relicensing to MIT.",{"value":156,"source":55,"evidence":157},"Does the name Chie mean something in other languages",[158,162,166],{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"36911221","steeve","I advise you not to look up what it means in french.",{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"36912698","cbenz","Sorry, too late, I'm french.",{"id":167,"by":11,"text":168},"36926266","I actually asked ChatGPT what chie might mean in other languages, for multiple times, but it did not tell me this :(",[170,174],{"value":171,"source":55,"evidence":172},"chatboxai",[173],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},{"value":175,"source":55,"evidence":176},"chitchat (Rust)",[177],{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"36916124","clarkmcc","Shameless plug for my version of this, also written in Rust: https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fclarkmcc\u002Fchitchat",{"comments":39,"answered":34,"key":182},[183,184],{"id":167,"text":168},{"id":185,"text":186},"36926361","I would argue it is not a large part a webview. 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