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The main difference is the use of speech instead of text. At school, I could read\u002Fwrite in French, but then was absolutely lost speaking to French people.…",{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},"36985728","Hey thanks for the feedback. I'll be honest with you, if reading and writing is what your goal is, then you'll get better results speaking to ChatGPT in the OpenAI chat…",{"value":64,"source":65,"evidence":66},"Language learners who want speaking practice","inferred",[67],{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},{"value":69,"source":55,"evidence":70},"15 free conversations per month, unlimited for $4.50",[71],{"id":72,"by":11,"text":73},"36985077","Thanks for using it! Glad it's been helpful. You get 15 free conversations per month when you sign up. If you want unlimited conversations per month, it's $4.50. Sound reasonable?",{"value":75,"source":55,"evidence":76},"Maker learned Romanian and found speaking practice missing from existing tools",[77,80],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},"36978488","Thanks! Speech-to-text is Whisper API, although that seems to have caused a couple of errors tonight so am considering moving away from it. Will have to have a think and do a lot…",{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},[82,90],{"value":83,"source":84,"evidence":85},"OpenAI GPT","commenter",[86],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"36976318","kalid","I've been meaning to brush up on Spanish and the app worked great to just hop in! The best part about using GPT is being able to talk about whatever is on your mind. I noticed…",{"value":91,"source":55,"evidence":92},"Whisper API for speech-to-text",[93],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},"unknown","beta",{"praise":97,"objections":114,"requests":143,"questions":178,"alternatives":191},[98,110],{"value":99,"source":84,"evidence":100},"Speaking practice feels natural and useful",[101,102,106],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"36978414","Serenacula","Wow, this is so cool! xD I think this is the strongest usecase for AI I've seen so far. I'd love some more details on how you made it - how are you handling the speech to text?…",{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"36976934","GenericDev","This is really slick! I really appreciate you having Japanese as a language choice. I've been dying to hone my japanese skills with AI in lieu of reading grammar\u002Fvocab books etc.…",{"value":111,"source":84,"evidence":112},"Good language choice including Japanese",[113],{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},[115,126,136],{"value":116,"source":84,"evidence":117},"Relies on ChatGPT which makes grammar mistakes in less common languages",[118,122],{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"36976559","mahathu","I like the Anki shoutout. I personally would be cautious learning an extra language through a tool like this though, especially for a huge list of supposedly supported languages…",{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"36983380","applesan","Generally if you are beginner and want to actually learn the language, you should focus on the input not the output. Few problems I find with these kind of apps: How is that…",{"value":127,"source":84,"evidence":128},"Speech recognition hallucinates on blank audio and fails for some languages like German",[129,133],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"36976196","shazar","Just tried a few languages and there seems to be a problem with German speech to text. When I say \"Hallo\" it just thinks I said \"Untertitel der Amara.org-Community\" :-) English…",{"id":134,"by":11,"text":135},"36978747","Thanks for the feedback. Yeah - it does seem to have hallucinated a little tonight. It normally happens when I time the microphone wrong and send some blank audio, then it seems…",{"value":137,"source":84,"evidence":138},"Server slow and overloaded under traffic",[139],{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"36986749","hackernews_me","I think the app currently is under heavy load, so it is unstable and give 5xx. When it has worked, it was amazing. I am ready to pay for it.",[144,156,160,169],{"value":145,"source":84,"evidence":146},"Difficulty levels (beginner, intermediate, advanced)",[147,150,153],{"id":148,"by":11,"text":149},"36983505","Thanks for the kind words. Difficulty levels have come up a few times so I'll see what I can do.",{"id":151,"by":11,"text":152},"36977775","Thanks for the feedback. Yes, the beginner, intermediate, advanced point has come up so I'll look at adding something like that. Just to check that I understand, do you mean…",{"id":154,"by":11,"text":155},"36991269","Thanks for the feedback. Am thinking about ways to make it work for different levels (beginner\u002Fintermediate\u002Fadvanced). 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There will be a native app soon, however",[179,184],{"value":180,"source":84,"evidence":181},"How is it different from just using ChatGPT?",[182,183],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},{"value":185,"source":84,"evidence":186},"How is the fluency score calculated?",[187,190],{"id":188,"by":11,"text":189},"36977652","Good question. I looked through literature to see whether anyone had come up with any good ways of measuring fluency, and there are a couple out there. The key indicators that…",{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},[192,197],{"value":193,"source":84,"evidence":194},"ChatGPT in the OpenAI chat interface",[195,196],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},{"value":198,"source":84,"evidence":199},"Anki for spaced repetition",[200],{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},{"comments":202,"answered":203,"key":204},92,36,[205,208,211],{"id":206,"text":207},"36976380","Thanks for the feedback. I'll add in a processing-style spinner. Sorry that it was a bit slow when you first used it. Do you mind if I ask what device you're using?",{"id":209,"text":210},"36978945","Thanks for giving me the device. I did have some trouble getting it working on iOS so maybe I didn't iron out all the bugs. I'll get working on a fix. I think we're already…",{"id":212,"text":213},"36983735","Okay, yeah that does sound annoying. 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