[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":642},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-37034951":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":33,"aspects":34,"strip":48,"post_text":51,"what":52,"said":84,"maker_in_thread":243,"shape":256,"grid":260,"attempts":604,"same_week":605,"maker_shows":46,"maker_hidden":634,"reader_version":635,"card":636},"37034951","Phind V2","A GPT-4 agent that’s connected to the internet and your code","title","Show HN: Phind V2 – A GPT-4 agent that’s connected to the internet and your code","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.phind.com\u002Fhn","phind.com","rushingcreek",1691418578,2023,221,134,246,3109,8,"notable","dev_tools","ai coding assistant","web_app",[21,24,25,26],"gpt-4","vs code extension","code search","mixed",-0.153,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":18,"critical":32},14,17,34,73,{"design":35,"execution":38,"idea":40,"privacy":41,"performance":43,"pricing":44,"docs":47},{"positive":36,"critical":37},1,5,{"positive":39,"critical":37},2,{"positive":36,"critical":36},{"positive":36,"critical":42},13,{"positive":36,"critical":39},{"positive":45,"critical":46},0,6,{"positive":45,"critical":39},[36,37,37,36,45,39,36,36,36,45,36,36,36,37,36,49,37,49,36,50,36,49,36,36,39,49,39,37,36,49,49,36,37,45,36,36,36,36,36,37],3,4,"Hi HN - Today we’re launching V2 of Phind.com, an assistant for programmers that combines GPT-4 with the ability to search the web and your codebase to solve nearly any technical problem – no matter how difficult.\n\nWe’re incredibly grateful for the feedback we received when we first launched GPT-4 answers back in April (https:\u002F\u002Fnews.ycombinator.com\u002Fitem?id=35543668). As Phind has gotten better at complex programming tasks, the questions it gets asked have gotten more complex as well. In the past, we would always perform a web search for every input. This limitation constrained Phind’s answers ",{"problem":53,"audience":59,"pricing":63,"motivation":64,"time_to_build":63,"stack":68,"openness":81,"stage":82,"team_size":83},{"value":54,"source":55,"evidence":56},"Programming questions that search results or plain chat models can't answer, including debugging with codebase context","maker",[57],{"id":58},"post",{"value":60,"source":55,"evidence":61},"Programmers",[62],{"id":58},null,{"value":65,"source":55,"evidence":66},"Make Phind more powerful for complex programming tasks and integrate it with codebases",[67],{"id":58},[69,75],{"value":70,"source":55,"evidence":71},"GPT-4",[72],{"id":73,"by":11,"text":74},"37037329","Phind now runs on GPT-4 by default, even without an account. So it's quite the opposite -- the underlying answer engine is a smarter and larger model than what we had back in…",{"value":76,"source":55,"evidence":77},"GPT-3.5",[78],{"id":79,"by":11,"text":80},"37037760","We've done this because it's not our goal to upsell you -- we only suggest you get a plan once you've exhausted your daily GPT-4 searches. And you can keep using Phind with the…","unknown","launched","team",{"praise":85,"objections":116,"requests":165,"questions":201,"alternatives":223},[86,102,109],{"value":87,"source":88,"evidence":89},"Useful for programming help, often preferred over Google","commenter",[90,94,98],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"37037539","fosterfriends","Im a huge fan of this tool - I really like using it. I've started preferring it over google, and only googling after Phind fails me. Great work y'all! Keep it up :)",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"37044742","beeburrt","I love Phind, I use it daily.",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"37043327","bckr","I love Phind! It’s in my daily toolbox. Congrats on the V2 launch!",{"value":103,"source":88,"evidence":104},"Saves significant time on coding tasks",[105],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"37038548","CharlesW","Hey Michael and Justin, I just wanted to let you know that I rebuilt a small web app (used by ~2K people\u002Fmonth) with help from Phind V1, and I found it extremely useful. The old…",{"value":110,"source":88,"evidence":111},"Strong at niche hardware\u002FHLS code questions",[112],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"37043301","stefanpie","Wow, I'm impressed. I've been toying around with some prototypes to use AI and LLMs for hardware \u002F chip design but at the HLS level using C++ rather than the HDL level using…",[117,131,146,158],{"value":118,"source":88,"evidence":119},"Logged-in and anonymous conversations can be shared publicly and indexed",[120,124,128],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"37037339","TekMol","This puts everything I ask it on the internet. Is the intend to build something like an AI StackOverflow this way? That should not be enabled by default. If anything, it should…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"37038104","foob","This is frankly disgusting behavior. There's zero indication on the homepage that your questions and interactions will be published and indexed on Google, and I think it's an…",{"id":129,"by":122,"text":130},"37037529","Not only for logged in users. Even more so for users who are not logged in. I find it very surprising that I type something into your service and that gets hosted on the open…",{"value":132,"source":88,"evidence":133},"Asks clarifying questions too often and gives long-winded answers",[134,138,142],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"37039204","soultrees","I love phind. It has helped me a lot but the hard coded (or heavy weighted) ‘ask user question’ after every single query can be too much. Especially when it asks to see parts of…",{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"37042267","lolc","Having used Phind for a while, I got quite frustrated by the new mode where it asks clarifying questions. I think part of the frustration is that when I'm asking more obscure…",{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"37037218","esafak","1. I don't see any notice of this launch on the site. 2. The responses on phind tend to be long-winded, decomposing the question even when I try to formulate it logically and…",{"value":147,"source":88,"evidence":148},"Confidently wrong or hallucinated answers",[149,150,154],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"37047464","RupertEisenhart","Congrats! Looking forward to seeing how it develops! Here was an amusing one that just happened to me: - query - answer with hallucination-- 'try X' and citations - sorry, that…",{"id":155,"by":156,"text":157},"37037238","ashishgautam0","My only reason for not using phind is next 13. I use it for express and node js. But in the new app router it hasn't read the documentation and can't provide me with answers. In…",{"value":159,"source":88,"evidence":160},"Sign-in required to view pricing plans",[161],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"37037719","server_man3000","Sorry it says “please sign in to view plans”. Because of this, I cannot become a customer as that is extremely annoying UI",[166,175,183,194],{"value":167,"source":88,"evidence":168},"Private conversations by default and deletion controls",[169,170,171],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},{"id":129,"by":122,"text":130},{"id":172,"by":173,"text":174},"37040597","tibanne","Seems ok... https:\u002F\u002Fwww.phind.com\u002Fagent?cache=cll1botdq0025ky08w5z588zf I would use. But not after seeing that everything is made public. 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