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Basically a single standard HTML+CSS+JS web page, hosted remotely. With the added ability to do User Authentication, Database Storage and Crypto Payments…",{"value":85,"source":57,"evidence":86},"Potential for unbanked people to sell products",[87],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"37389806","gchaincl","I see a big potential for unbanked people wanting to make a simple website to perhaps sell their products",[92,100,114,127],{"value":93,"source":57,"evidence":94},"Bitcoin-only payments seen as a red flag",[95,96],{"id":60,"by":61,"text":62},{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"37322342","JuanPosadas","Definitely, and rugpulling \"payments\" with \"only crypto btw\" also sets up a huge red flag. Most people are heavily fatigued on weird blockchain projects and looking for any…",{"value":101,"source":57,"evidence":102},"Slow performance, likely from HN traffic and unoptimised app",[103,107,110],{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"37312436","FireInsight","So kind of like https:\u002F\u002Fglitch.com\u002F and https:\u002F\u002Finbrowser.app\u002F but somehow productized, has a bitcoin donation button, and uses iframes(??). Feels pretty slow too, but that might…",{"id":108,"by":11,"text":109},"37312634","The HN hug of death definitely playing a part in that but also the app is just not optimised yet for performance. Unfortunately modern frameworks are absolutely terrible.",{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"37308035","p2hari","Looks like it :(",{"value":115,"source":57,"evidence":116},"No local development or sandbox; all pushes go live",[117,121,124],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"37311214","curtisblaine","Does this support local development?",{"id":122,"by":89,"text":123},"37316040","Definitively a deal breaker considering that there are no way to test the site. A test\u002Fsandbox environment could be a good first step",{"id":125,"by":65,"text":126},"37319060","You're able to build and test your site within the app before you publish. But after that all pushes are live. 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