[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":216},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-38261351":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":33,"aspects":34,"strip":37,"post_text":39,"what":40,"said":70,"maker_in_thread":142,"shape":153,"grid":155,"attempts":181,"same_week":182,"maker_shows":31,"maker_hidden":209,"reader_version":210,"card":211},"38261351","tggl","A LaunchDarkly competitor, focused on pricing and product","title","Show HN: A LaunchDarkly competitor, focused on pricing and product","https:\u002F\u002Ftggl.io\u002F","tggl.io","nick-keller",1699956545,2023,32,16,1356,3109,44,"shown","dev_tools","feature flagging","web_app",[24,21,25,26],"feature flags","launchdarkly alternative","product collaboration","loved",0.4,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":32},4,3,0,7,{"pricing":35},{"positive":36,"critical":32},1,[32,32,32,32,32,38,32,31,32,31,32,38,38,31,38,32],5,"Hey HN,\n\nI have been working on tggl.io as my main “side” project for over a year now. I was frustrated with existing feature flagging tools (you’ve probably heard of LaunchDarkly’s reputation) and saw an opportunity to innovate on two fronts:\n\n(i) Pricing: it gets very expensive very fast. I’ve made all technical decisions with the goal of limiting stupid expenses and ended up being 2x to 3x cheaper on larger deals.\n\n(ii) Product: existing solutions are just painful to use. Tggl focuses on product-tech collaboration and aims to offer a much better experience.\n\nAs the customer base is growing ",{"problem":41,"audience":47,"pricing":56,"motivation":61,"time_to_build":65,"stack":66,"openness":67,"stage":68,"team_size":69},{"value":42,"source":43,"evidence":44},"Existing feature flagging tools are expensive and painful to use","maker",[45],{"id":46},"post",{"value":48,"source":43,"evidence":49},"Product and technical teams using feature flags",[50,53],{"id":51,"by":11,"text":52},"38262280","Feature-wise you'll find everything you would expect from a feature flag tool. 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Very attractive pricing also.",{"value":85,"source":74,"evidence":86},"Interesting alternative to LaunchDarkly",[87,91],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"38262471","S4phyre","So cool. I look into this",{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"38261642","Itsmexw","Curious, let's see",[96],{"value":97,"source":74,"evidence":98},"Commenters suspect the positive comments are astroturfed by the maker's friends",[99,103,107],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"38262512","KomoD","These are the most obvious fake comments I've ever seen, like are you serious?",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"38262574","mdrzn","Definitely astroturfed itself, these accounts are not even passing for real.",{"id":108,"by":101,"text":109},"38262835","They're all 1 or less karma, barely used, some inactive for years (e.g. one didn't make a single comment since 2014 until this post), some have had no previous comments",[111],{"value":112,"source":43,"evidence":113},"Feedback on the tool and landing pages",[114,115],{"id":46},{"id":116,"by":11,"text":117},"38262285","Feel free to reach out for any feedback",[119,129],{"value":120,"source":74,"evidence":121},"Whether open-sourcing everything except the flag management app is the case",[122,126],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"38262353","krasun","Nick, so you don't open-source only UI?",{"id":127,"by":11,"text":128},"38262429","Yes, everything is open-source except for the actual app that lets you manage flags",{"value":130,"source":74,"evidence":131},"What Tggl offers that other tools don't",[132],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"38261602","danolife","I have used LaunchDarkly in the past and yeah it's kind of a pain to use. 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