[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":558},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-3827868":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":20,"keywords":22,"reception":26,"sentiment":27,"stance_mix":28,"scored_comments":32,"aspects":33,"strip":44,"post_text":46,"what":47,"said":60,"maker_in_thread":213,"shape":224,"grid":228,"attempts":520,"same_week":521,"maker_shows":314,"maker_hidden":551,"reader_version":552,"card":553},"3827868","Pebble","Our Hackable E-Paper Watch for iPhone and Android","title","Show HN: Our Hackable E-Paper Watch for iPhone and Android","http:\u002F\u002Fwww.kickstarter.com\u002Fprojects\u002F597507018\u002Fpebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android","kickstarter.com","erohead",1334156961,2012,342,107,28,1677,2,"legend","hardware","smartwatch",[23,21,24,25],"e-paper watch","bluetooth watch","hackable watch","mixed",0.19,{"positive":29,"neutral":16,"mixed":30,"critical":31},20,3,8,59,{"idea":34,"design":37,"execution":39,"docs":41,"performance":42,"pricing":43},{"positive":35,"critical":36},9,1,{"positive":38,"critical":30},4,{"positive":40,"critical":40},0,{"positive":40,"critical":36},{"positive":18,"critical":18},{"positive":40,"critical":36},[40,45,45,30,36,36,36,30,30,45,30,40,36,45,36,30,45,30,45,30,30,45,30,45,45,45,38,30,45,45,30,36,45,45,38,45,36,40,40,45],5,null,{"problem":46,"audience":46,"pricing":48,"motivation":46,"time_to_build":46,"stack":56,"openness":57,"stage":58,"team_size":59},{"value":49,"source":50,"evidence":51},"Basis $199 level, $99+ Kickstarter tier mentioned","commenter",[52],{"id":53,"by":54,"text":55},"3829280","kolev","Basis is $199 and comes (will come) and adds (will add) a lot of value. $99+ is a little too pricey, I think. Those are two are different products, of course, but still.",[],"unknown","prototype","team",{"praise":61,"objections":88,"requests":119,"questions":146,"alternatives":176},[62,77],{"value":63,"source":50,"evidence":64},"Hackable with SDK and programmable apps",[65,69,73],{"id":66,"by":67,"text":68},"3828125","rohansingh","Brilliant. I've been looking for something with the functionality to replace my old SPOT watch, and it looks like this is finally the ticket. Also looks like there's a \"hacker\"…",{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"3828071","mhd","The SDK sounds very promising, ripe for hacking. I guess you could do some bluetooth triangulation (plus accelerometer fine-tuning) to \"localize\" it for different rooms of your…",{"id":74,"by":75,"text":76},"3828678","jazzychad","Looks awesome, Eric! Can't wait to hack on one. If only it ran on a dcpu-16, you'd have a super marketing combo :)",{"value":78,"source":50,"evidence":79},"E-paper good for outdoor use and looks great",[80,84],{"id":81,"by":82,"text":83},"3827978","karanbhangui","Congrats to Eric and team! This looks great! Epaper is a huge plus for outdoor use.",{"id":85,"by":86,"text":87},"3827938","yurisagalov","looks awesome, and just in time for me to replace my broken analog watch. Congrats!",[89,100,104,115],{"value":90,"source":50,"evidence":91},"Needs regular charging",[92,96],{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"3829442","cs702","Looks really neat, but I won't buy it, because: * It requires regular charging -- at least once a week, according to the kickstart page. Who wants more cables dangling from the…",{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"3829999","guylhem","I also purchased a Garmin forerunner - now catching dust. Without changing the law of physics, an eink device whose main function is to display time should be designed to work…",{"value":101,"source":50,"evidence":102},"Smartphone apps make it redundant",[103],{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},{"value":105,"source":50,"evidence":106},"Design looks ugly or unsuited to square display",[107,111],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"3830718","hartror","I love the technology but aesthetically the unit itself looks pretty horrible to my eyes. Watches are one of the few accessories men can wear and it always saddens me that these…",{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"3831302","pg_bot","Looks like a cool little product, I would buy one if I wore watches. My only suggestion would be to stop designing your dial as if you had a round face to work with, your display…",{"value":116,"source":50,"evidence":117},"Price is high for the features",[118],{"id":53,"by":54,"text":55},[120,131,139],{"value":121,"source":50,"evidence":122},"Bluetooth 4.0 \u002F BLE support for lower power",[123,127],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"3830762","ricardobeat","I was expecting to see BT4\u002FLE in use. Any reason to stick to the more power-hungry 2.1?",{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"3829536","iuqiddis","Out of curiosity, any reason for not using Bluetooth 4.0?",{"value":132,"source":50,"evidence":133},"Longer battery life",[134,138],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"3829165","thechut","I already have an inPulse but this is so cool I just backed Pebble on Kickstarter too. I really hope the battery life is as good as you are claiming, because the 20ish hour bat…",{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},{"value":140,"source":50,"evidence":141},"Google Voice SMS support",[142],{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"3828300","rubergly","What is the process like for using it on iPhone? Do you need to always be running a companion app in the foreground? Have you considered adding support for Google Voice, if you…",[147,154,165],{"value":148,"source":50,"evidence":149},"Does it work natively with iOS without jailbreak",[150],{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"3828235","brk","Does it work natively with iOS, or does it require hacks like jailbreaking? I bought one of the other programmable watches (forget the company name, I think it's a YC company?)…",{"value":155,"source":50,"evidence":156},"Does iOS allow Bluetooth 2.1 from background apps",[157,161],{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"3828663","guan","I was under the impression that iOS apps can only talk directly to Bluetooth Low Energy devices, not Bluetooth 2.1. Your Kickstarter page only mentions Bluetooth 2.1 support.…",{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"3829310","mietek","I would really like to know the answer to this, as well.",{"value":166,"source":50,"evidence":167},"Does e-paper ghost or wear out",[168,172],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"3828210","limmeau","Won't the epaper pixels wear out after a finite number of transitions? After all, a year has millions of seconds to display...",{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"3828469","nextparadigms","Well, from the video it looks pretty good. But is e-paper the best display technology to use here? Doesn't it get ghosting? 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It's a great GPS fitness device with bluetooth, and right now is definitely more…",{"value":199,"source":50,"evidence":200},"TI eZ430-Chronos",[201],{"id":202,"by":203,"text":204},"3828054","slug","Texas Instruments was selling the eZ430-Chronos for $25 the other day, it sold out. http:\u002F\u002Fprocessors.wiki.ti.com\u002Findex.php\u002FEZ430-Chronos , http:\u002F\u002Ftideals.com\u002F It doesn't have…",{"value":206,"source":50,"evidence":207},"Meta Watch, WIMM One, IM Watch",[208,209],{"id":191,"by":192,"text":193},{"id":210,"by":211,"text":212},"3831762","RoryH","Anybody tried one of these? the imWatch? http:\u002F\u002Fwww.imwatch.it\u002Fie-en\u002F I'm curious to hear what they are like... disclaimer: I too succumbed to the Pebble deal on Kickstarter...…",{"comments":38,"answered":18,"key":214},[215,218,221],{"id":216,"text":217},"3827952","We've made a lot of improvements over our first version. 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