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Start with a text prompt, let DALLE-3 generate an image, then GPT-4 Vision turns that image back into a text prompt, DALLE-3 creates another image, and so on.\n\nYou need to bring your own OpenAI API key (costs about $0.10\u002Frun)\n\nSome prompts are very stable, others go wild. If you bias GPT4's prompting by telling it to \"make it weird\" you can get crazy results.\n\nHere's a few of my favorites:\n\n- Gnomes: https:\u002F\u002Fdalle.party\u002F?party=k4eeMQ6I\n\n- Start with a sailb",{"problem":52,"audience":58,"pricing":59,"motivation":64,"time_to_build":58,"stack":68,"openness":77,"stage":78,"team_size":77},{"value":53,"source":54,"evidence":55},"Shows how text-to-image and image-to-text models drift when fed their own outputs in a loop","inferred",[56],{"id":57},"post",null,{"value":60,"source":61,"evidence":62},"Bring your own OpenAI API key, about $0.10 per run","maker",[63],{"id":57},{"value":65,"source":61,"evidence":66},"Inspired by Translation Party, a game with a similar feedback loop",[67],{"id":57},[69,73],{"value":70,"source":61,"evidence":71},"DALL-E 3",[72],{"id":57},{"value":74,"source":61,"evidence":75},"GPT-4 Vision",[76],{"id":57},"unknown","launched",{"praise":80,"objections":112,"requests":149,"questions":176,"alternatives":191},[81,101],{"value":82,"source":83,"evidence":84},"Fun to watch prompts drift into surreal or absurd results","commenter",[85,89,93,97],{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"38441649","epiccoleman","It's pretty fun to mess with the prompt and see what you can make happen over the series of images. Inspired by a recent Twitter post[1], I set this one up to increase the…",{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"38441091","andrelaszlo","Here's a custom prompt that I enjoyed: \"Think hard about every single detail of the image, conceptualize it including the style, colors, and lighting. Final step, condensing this…",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"38436034","morkalork","Wow that meme about everything becoming cosmic\u002Fspace themed is real isn't it?",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"38442975","nathanfig","These are fantastic",{"value":102,"source":83,"evidence":103},"Shadows and reflections in the images look surprisingly correct",[104,108],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"38441281","Blammar","The thing that is truly mindboggling to me is that THE SHADOWS IN THE IMAGES ARE CORRECT. How is that possible??? Does DALL-E actually have a shadow-tracing component?",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"38442306","jiggawatts","Yes! It can also get reflections and refractions mostly correct.",[113,123,138],{"value":114,"source":83,"evidence":115},"Images are often noisy or wrong, with people frequently mangled",[116,120],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"38446456","throwaway290","I randomly checked a few links here and shadows were correct in 2 images out of a dozen... and any people tend to be horrifying in many",{"id":121,"by":91,"text":122},"38440560","My results are disappoitingly noisy but I love the concept https:\u002F\u002Fdalle.party\u002F?party=bxrPClVg https:\u002F\u002Fdalle.party\u002F?party=mmBxT8G- https:\u002F\u002Fdalle.party\u002F?party=kxra0OKY (the last…",{"value":124,"source":83,"evidence":125},"Rate limits and content-filter errors make runs frustrating",[126,130,134],{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"38437852","epivosism","The \"create text version of image\" prompt matters a ton. I tried three, demo here: default ``` https:\u002F\u002Fdalle.party\u002F?party=JfiwmJra ``` hyper-long + max detail + compression -…",{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"38440207","AvImd","The default limit for an account that was not used much is one image per minute, can you please add support for timeouts?",{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"38445107","toxic72","I purposely gave it some weird instructions to show the progress of the universe from the Big Bang to present day Earth. It showed the 8 stages from my prompt in each image and…",{"value":139,"source":83,"evidence":140},"Users are reluctant to paste API keys into a third-party site",[141,145],{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"38437396","rexreed","Question: how are you protecting those API keys? I'm reluctant to enter mine into what could easily be an API Key scraper.",{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"38438125","fassssst","I would never paste my API key into an app or website.",[150,165],{"value":151,"source":83,"evidence":152},"Start the loop from an uploaded image rather than a prompt",[153,157,161],{"id":154,"by":155,"text":156},"38436990","i-use-nixos-btw","It’d be interesting to start with an image rather than a prompt, though I am afraid of what it’d do if I started with a selfie.",{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"38442244","bbreier","I'd like to be able to begin it with an image rather than a prompt.",{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"38441520","blopker","This is fun, thanks for sharing! It would be interesting to upload the initial image from a camera to see where the chain takes it.",{"value":166,"source":83,"evidence":167},"Run it with local models or provide source code",[168,172],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"38444558","robblbobbl","Pretty interesting. I would love to see a version of this running locally with local models.",{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"38443189","edfletcher_t137","A clever idea that I'd love to play around with, but not without a source link so I could feel better about trusting it and host it myself.",[177,184],{"value":178,"source":83,"evidence":179},"Whether the image-to-text model really understands the pictures",[180],{"id":181,"by":182,"text":183},"38441005","nerdponx","The #1 phenomenon I see here is that the image-to-text model doesn't have any idea what the pictures actually contain. It looks like it's just matching patterns that it has in…",{"value":185,"source":83,"evidence":186},"How many iterations before the loop converges to a fixed point",[187],{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"38440899","neuronexmachina","Very cool, I'm rather curious how many iterations it would typically take for a feedback loop to converge on a stable fixed-point. 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