[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":1037},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-38635695":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":50,"post_text":52,"what":53,"said":101,"maker_in_thread":243,"shape":253,"grid":256,"attempts":995,"same_week":1000,"maker_shows":51,"maker_hidden":1029,"reader_version":1030,"card":1031},"38635695","Agora","I scraped 25M Shopify products to build a search engine","title","Show HN: I scraped 25M Shopify products to build a search engine","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.searchagora.com\u002F","searchagora.com","pencildiver",1702509998,2023,317,268,131,3109,5,"legend","web_saas","product search engine","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"shopify product search","shopping search engine","find gifts online","ecommerce search","curious",-0.154,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},20,66,3,41,130,{"idea":37,"execution":40,"pricing":43,"performance":46,"design":48,"privacy":49},{"positive":38,"critical":39},8,9,{"positive":41,"critical":42},0,14,{"positive":44,"critical":45},1,7,{"positive":41,"critical":47},4,{"positive":44,"critical":33},{"positive":41,"critical":44},[47,44,33,41,41,33,44,44,44,51,51,44,44,51,51,33,41,44,44,33,33,18,33,44,44,47,44,33,33,33,47,33,47,47,33,33,47,47,44,44],2,"Hi HN! I built Agora as a side-project leading up to the holiday season. I wanted to find an easier way to find Christmas gifts, without needing to go store-by-store.\n\nMy wife asked me for a a pair of red shoes for Christmas. I quickly typed it into Google and found a combination of ads from large retailers and links to a 1948 movie called 'Red Shoes'. I decided to build Agora to solve my own problem (and stay happily married). The product is a search engine that automatically crawls thousands of Shopify stores and makes them easily accessible with a search interface. There's a few additional ",{"problem":54,"audience":60,"pricing":65,"motivation":71,"time_to_build":75,"stack":76,"openness":99,"stage":100,"team_size":99},{"value":55,"source":56,"evidence":57},"Finding products across many stores without visiting each store one by one","maker",[58],{"id":59},"post",{"value":61,"source":62,"evidence":63},"Shoppers looking for gifts and products sold on Shopify stores","inferred",[64],{"id":59},{"value":66,"source":56,"evidence":67},"Shopify store owners charged $99 per product per month for verified tag and boost",[68],{"id":69,"by":11,"text":70},"38637066","Right now, charging Shopify store owners $99 \u002F product \u002F month to give them a 'verified' tag and boost their product in search results. Currently not making money on affiliate…",{"value":72,"source":56,"evidence":73},"Built to find red shoes for his wife's Christmas gift without store-by-store searching",[74],{"id":59},null,[77,83,89,93],{"value":78,"source":56,"evidence":79},"JavaScript crawler",[80],{"id":81,"by":11,"text":82},"38635832","Scraper is built in Javascript and a Mongo database. Probably not the most scalable way to do it, but I found that all Shopify stores have a public JSON file available at [Base…",{"value":84,"source":56,"evidence":85},"MongoDB \u002F Mongo Atlas Search",[86],{"id":87,"by":11,"text":88},"38636625","Great suggestions, looking into this right now. First time building something like this so definitely new to some of these tools. For scraping: Found that every Shopify store has…",{"value":90,"source":56,"evidence":91},"Next.js",[92],{"id":87,"by":11,"text":88},{"value":94,"source":56,"evidence":95},"Redis caching",[96],{"id":97,"by":11,"text":98},"38654215","HN— Not sure if anyone will see this but I wanted to thank you all for the support. Although I haven't slept much since going live, it has been amazing getting early feedback…","unknown","beta",{"praise":102,"objections":111,"requests":162,"questions":190,"alternatives":220},[103],{"value":104,"source":105,"evidence":106},"Fast progress and responsive maker","commenter",[107],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"38654534","IcyHordr","So cool, good luck in the marriage, you made a very cool thing!!",[112,127,135,143,151],{"value":113,"source":105,"evidence":114},"Search relevance is poor (red shoes, andy cooks)",[115,119,123],{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"38635819","hipadev23","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.searchagora.com\u002Fsearch?query=red%20shoes It doesn’t work very well.",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"38635854","muratsu","Agora also doesn't return red shoes for the search query \"red shoes\". Seems like you haven't fully solved the problem yet :) From a technical perspective, crawling 25M products…",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"38636256","mvdtnz","Not only is the search complete dogshit (for example, I searched \"andy cooks\", the title of a book which I know for a fact is on several Shopify sites, and didn't get any results…",{"value":128,"source":105,"evidence":129},"No region or shipping filter",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"38636194","quickthrower2","I like it. I need to be able to filter search to if it will deliver to my country. It desperately needs some indication that your action is being processed, like a spinner, when…",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},{"value":136,"source":105,"evidence":137},"Slow search performance",[138,142],{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"38636815","twothamendment","Searching is slow (kinda expected that right now), but after clicking a product and then hitting back, I have to wait for the search again. Not at computer so I didn't check the…",{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},{"value":144,"source":105,"evidence":145},"Unclear value proposition versus large marketplaces",[146,147],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},"38635870","b2bsaas00","Basically it’s Amazon",{"value":152,"source":105,"evidence":153},"Authenticity concerns about the founder story and holding company",[154,158],{"id":155,"by":156,"text":157},"38638874","TekMol","The Terms page goes to \"Jaggi Enterprises\", \"A Modern Investment Fund. We buy, build, and invest in software companies with recurring revenue.\". So maybe this is not really…",{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"38636312","dns_snek","I'm sorry, but I have to question where this heartfelt story about looking out for your wife is in any way real? The website certainly doesn't look like a side project, it has a…",[163,168,172,176,183],{"value":164,"source":105,"evidence":165},"Add ships-to or region filter",[166,167],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},{"value":169,"source":105,"evidence":170},"Add loading spinner or progress indicator",[171],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},{"value":173,"source":105,"evidence":174},"Cache search results so back navigation is fast",[175],{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},{"value":177,"source":105,"evidence":178},"Curate or audit stores to remove low quality ones",[179],{"id":180,"by":181,"text":182},"38638617","callmeed","I built this a couple years ago (now defunct) for the same reason :) The public JSON endpoints on shopify stores make it pretty easy to get the data. You mentioned using Mongo…",{"value":184,"source":105,"evidence":185},"Track price changes over time",[186],{"id":187,"by":188,"text":189},"38636040","xnx","Great project. If you continue to crawl the data, be sure to save it so you can detect price changes a la camelcamelcamel.",[191,202,213],{"value":192,"source":105,"evidence":193},"How the scraper was built and what it cost at scale",[194,198],{"id":195,"by":196,"text":197},"38636376","screye","What was the process for scraping 25M products ? I have always used standard python tools like selenium, bs4 and the like. But I'm guessing none of these work at scale. Could you…",{"id":199,"by":200,"text":201},"38635772","misterbwong","What technology did you use to build the scraper and how did you get around the usual challenges (anti bot, ip banning, etc) with scraping large amounts of data?",{"value":203,"source":105,"evidence":204},"How the initial list of Shopify stores was obtained",[205,209],{"id":206,"by":207,"text":208},"38635968","Asparagirl","Cool! But how did you get the initial dataset of 643,000+ Shopify stores (data as per your “About” page) in the first place, to then scrape the products from their \u002Fproducts.json…",{"id":210,"by":211,"text":212},"38635795","glohbalrob","wow! Nice work. I've been trying to build an index of shopify stores. Did you search for all domains pointing to shopify's name servers?",{"value":214,"source":105,"evidence":215},"What the revenue model is",[216],{"id":217,"by":218,"text":219},"38637015","krauses","What's your revenue model? I see you expanded on the details of your $1.5K monyhly cost, but failing to see how you make money? Affiliates fees?",[221,232,239],{"value":222,"source":105,"evidence":223},"Shop.app",[224,228],{"id":225,"by":226,"text":227},"38635906","taimurayaz","Cool project but Shopify already has this. https:\u002F\u002Fshop.app https:\u002F\u002Fshop.app\u002Fsearch\u002Fresults?query=red%20shoes",{"id":229,"by":230,"text":231},"38637233","pitched","Shopify has tried a few times to build a tool like this but hasn’t ever managed to get any traction. I think that missing any curation at all could be what eventually kills it.…",{"value":233,"source":105,"evidence":234},"Klarna",[235],{"id":236,"by":237,"text":238},"38638545","usrme","Maybe I'm clearly ignorant, but how does this differ from Klarna (https:\u002F\u002Fwww.klarna.com)?",{"value":240,"source":105,"evidence":241},"Amazon",[242],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},{"comments":244,"answered":42,"key":245},36,[246,249,250],{"id":247,"text":248},"38640274","Thanks for sharing this! If you're up for it, I'd love to talk more about your experience, especially the technical tooling. Working as fast as I can to understand the right way…",{"id":87,"text":88},{"id":251,"text":252},"38636183","Thank you, that means a lot. It has definitely been a whirlwind of emotions since posting on HN but glad I did. 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