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I love weird little projects like this!",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"38746684","lanewinfield","Love it!",{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"38749454","jwong_","That was a fun game. There's a bit of a thrill every time I call into one of these \"stranger phone\" things that is still novel to me. The same feeling I get from some of the…",{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"38769175","hidelooktropic","Laughing out loud. What a delightful overuse of technology. Love it.",{"value":105,"source":86,"evidence":106},"Kids and family enjoy it",[107,111],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"38757517","onionisafruit","This has become very popular among my kids and their cousins. I’ve probably cost you a few dollars by now. If you put up a venmo link I’ll happily pay for a thousand calls to…",{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"38765744","sjmulder","There's something about calling some overseas phone number but that was fun! The kids enjoyed it too.",[116],{"value":117,"source":86,"evidence":118},"Cannot play from WhatsApp or international channels",[119,123],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"38746032","sneh_kagrana","Whackiest game I came across haha! Is it possible to make it work via Whatsapp call? Might help international users.",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"38746110","cardamomo","I second this suggestion. As someone who has also created whacky projects with Twilio, this was my #1 request from international users.",[128,133],{"value":129,"source":86,"evidence":130},"Support WhatsApp calling for international users",[131,132],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},{"value":134,"source":86,"evidence":135},"Add a high score leaderboard",[136,140],{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},"38746286","thih9","What’s the current high score? Is there any way to check that online?",{"id":141,"by":10,"text":142},"38746607","we don’t have this now but it’s something we should add! 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