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I don't want my email sent to any third party for analysis.",{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"38812649","orliesaurus","I wanted to build this, glad you built this! Thank you!... but the AI part needs to run locally for me to even think about using it as it is today.",{"value":171,"source":104,"evidence":172},"Support for non-Gmail providers such as Outlook or JMAP",[173,174],{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},{"value":176,"source":104,"evidence":177},"Automatic draft replies for review",[178,179],{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},{"id":180,"by":181,"text":182},"38811997","pandominium","gmail has unubscribe button right at the start of an email. 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