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It's just as simple single page (literally) SPA so one 'solution' is to just look at the HTML file. But I'll post a link to the Stripe pricing table on a…",{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},{"value":74,"source":64,"evidence":75},"Built a reusable scaling and deployment framework from custom client deployments.",[76],{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},[78],{"value":79,"source":80,"evidence":81},"WebAssembly","commenter",[82],{"id":83,"by":11,"text":84},"39953361","Is that right? Could be a recent acquire if it's DOM mirroring. I heard CF acquired S2 a few years ago, and what S2 did is they created a WebAssembly binary that composited the…","unknown","launched","team",{"praise":89,"objections":103,"requests":130,"questions":137,"alternatives":145},[90],{"value":91,"source":80,"evidence":92},"Responsive for some users, and the idea is interesting",[93,96,99],{"id":94,"by":57,"text":95},"39934463","Is there an about page I'm missing? Or somewhere to see pricing info, or... anything that's not the actual app? (Regardless, it's cool, and does in fact seem to work pretty well)",{"id":97,"by":11,"text":98},"39953584","That's why close servers are important. Streaming the SKIA instructions will have the same latency issue as streaming pixels. Something changes on the server, and the change is…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"39952356","peterleiser","Love the \"Loopback\" photo! Very cool product, nice work!",[104,114,120],{"value":105,"source":80,"evidence":106},"Latency makes the experience sluggish for some users",[107,111],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"39953545","internetter","> I don't see bandwidth as an issue. The issue is latency",{"id":112,"by":109,"text":113},"39956891","Yes, hardly anywhere close to a smooth experience. 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