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We use SEMrush and they are basically charging us +$1000 dollar for the basic plan, with every other feature as an add-on for…",{"id":68,"by":69,"text":70},"40882112","iambateman","Thanks for sharing! There’s so much opportunity to build lower cost tools here. Very cool.",{"value":72,"source":51,"evidence":73},"Usage-based: about $0.03-$0.05 per page of keywords, or prepaid balance top-up; free starting balance for new accounts",[74],{"id":54},{"value":76,"source":51,"evidence":77},"Maker spent $1297 on an Ahrefs subscription and wanted a cheaper tool",[78],{"id":54},null,[81],{"value":82,"source":51,"evidence":83},"DataForSEO as data provider",[84],{"id":85,"by":11,"text":86},"40882310","I can say it's not that one, if it's that important to know - DataForSEO is our provider for every aspect at the moment.","unknown","launched",{"praise":90,"objections":119,"requests":178,"questions":217,"alternatives":254},[91,107],{"value":92,"source":93,"evidence":94},"Clean, simple UI and pay-per-use pricing","commenter",[95,99,103],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"40888631","spaceman_2020","This is super nice Keyword research should absolutely be a pay per use thing instead of a SaaS. So many marketers I know use Ahrefs literally for 2 days for keyword research for…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"40943530","siyabuilt","this is so cool! Much simpler than all the other tools and even I know how to use it. Awesome work!",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"40882178","JourneyJourney","How to understand the meaning of what I'm seeing on screen. I'm not versed into SEO but I'd like to. Your tool is very nice to use.",{"value":108,"source":93,"evidence":109},"Much needed, lower-cost alternative to expensive SEO tools",[110,114,118],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"40888595","0xDeveloper","It's a much needed tool! I saw one more project do this with a credit based system, I read in this article: https:\u002F\u002Fsaasgodfathers.com\u002Farticle\u002Fseo-tools-without-subscription-hassle",{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"40887038","amanski","Awesome. All those tools are so freaking expensive.",{"id":68,"by":69,"text":70},[120,138,152,163],{"value":121,"source":93,"evidence":122},"Billing unclear: charged again on reload or paging, cache behaviour confusing",[123,127,131,134],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"40889700","mgiannopoulos","Seems nice but going from a keyword search to my account and back, there was another charge on the credit as if a new search was done. This was I fear the charges will rise up…",{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"40894136","qingcharles","This isn't clear though, because under the search it tells you the number of results, so you think you've paid for all those results, but you haven't. You've only paid for the…",{"id":132,"by":125,"text":133},"40891319","It was like 30 secs the back-n-forth The same happened when the tab was left opened for a long time and chrome auto-refreshed it or something to that effect. 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My issue with most keyword tools is that their APIs suck, with tight limits that force you to only request data in bulk, and so on.",{"id":150,"by":11,"text":151},"40885270","For sure you win in pricing using Telescope, but here are the things to consider: There are quite a few limits in Ahrefs's Starter plan, but on the other hand you have access to…",{"value":153,"source":93,"evidence":154},"Pricing for rank tracking seems high for large sites",[155,159],{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"40890651","nhggfu","your pricing for kw tracking seems nonsensical to me. eg i have a site where pages rank for 1,000+ keywords it has many pages like this.. tracking for just this ONE SITE would…",{"id":160,"by":161,"text":162},"40896589","oloila","From your landing: Keywords Page 450 x $0.05 Keyword Details 150 x $0.04 Your estimated bill $29 > Semrush. Save up to 71% of your current bill While using semrush, you pay 4…",{"value":164,"source":93,"evidence":165},"Landing page design and logo copied from existing templates or products",[166,170,174],{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"40884351","foragerdev","whoever is wondering about the website home page design, it looks direct copy paste from here:…",{"id":171,"by":172,"text":173},"40882074","edweis","Your logo is very similar to https:\u002F\u002Finsomnia.rest\u002F",{"id":175,"by":176,"text":177},"40899882","xz18r","Just FYI your logo is almost identical to that of Inoreader (apart from the color).",[179,184,194,202,206],{"value":180,"source":93,"evidence":181},"Keyword export and CSV download",[182,183],{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},{"value":185,"source":93,"evidence":186},"Caching of search results",[187,190],{"id":188,"by":136,"text":189},"40888096","agreed on this, caching would be very nice. i don't care if results are even a week+ out of date",{"id":191,"by":192,"text":193},"40883720","j45","Hi, congrats on the launch! Are searches cached locally in my account? I accidentally reload a page, it seems to run the search again and charge the (free and provided) balance.…",{"value":195,"source":93,"evidence":196},"API access",[197,198],{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},{"id":199,"by":200,"text":201},"40885058","mceoin","Hi - is there an API?",{"value":203,"source":93,"evidence":204},"Tagging keywords in saved lists",[205],{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},{"value":207,"source":93,"evidence":208},"Guide or docs for SEO beginners",[209,213],{"id":210,"by":211,"text":212},"40889558","written-beyond","I'm not someone who has ever worked with SEO but I'd like to use this tool for other research purposes. Can you make a guide for someone who's entirely new to SEO but is…",{"id":214,"by":215,"text":216},"40882945","dsmurrell","I don't know that much about SEO. Are you planning on adding a blog section maybe with a few article about how someone might use a tool like this to optimise their own SEO?",[218,232,243],{"value":219,"source":93,"evidence":220},"Where the keyword volume data comes from",[221,225,229],{"id":222,"by":223,"text":224},"40882454","weinzierl","Do you provide keyword popularity and is it based on Google Keyword Tool data or clickstream data?",{"id":226,"by":227,"text":228},"40888605","bytemonitor","Where do you get volume and CPC data? keyword planner API?",{"id":230,"by":223,"text":231},"40882333","I am confused. I always thought keyword tools use both: backlink data and estimated search volumes. For example ahrefs has, to the best of my knowledge, its own crawler for…",{"value":233,"source":93,"evidence":234},"Coverage for non-English and other countries",[235,239],{"id":236,"by":237,"text":238},"40882084","raimille1","Awesome!! Congrats on the value prop and landing!! Very clear. 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