[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":574},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-40912920":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":46,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":101,"maker_in_thread":230,"shape":239,"grid":244,"attempts":532,"same_week":538,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":566,"reader_version":567,"card":568},"40912920","Tegon","Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear","title","Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear","https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Ftegonhq\u002Ftegon","github.com","harshithmul",1720504907,2024,163,128,503,3515,15,"notable","dev_tools","issue tracking","web_app",[21,24,25,26,27],"jira alternative","project management","linear alternative","ai ticketing","mixed",-0.367,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},5,22,0,23,50,{"idea":37,"performance":40,"execution":41,"docs":43,"design":44},{"positive":38,"critical":39},2,10,{"positive":33,"critical":38},{"positive":33,"critical":42},4,{"positive":33,"critical":38},{"positive":33,"critical":45},3,[47,38,47,47,33,31,47,31,47,47,45,33,33,33,33,33,33,33,33,47,45,33,33,45,31,33,33,47,45,45,47,47,47,47,47,45,45,45,45,47],1,"Hi HN, we're Harshith, Manoj and Manik and we're building Tegon (https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Ftegonhq\u002Ftegon), open-source issue tracking software that uses AI to smartly automate manual workflows or provide more context to engineers for a given task. 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It is slow, bloated and often acts as a burde",{"problem":50,"audience":56,"pricing":65,"motivation":66,"time_to_build":65,"stack":70,"openness":98,"stage":99,"team_size":100},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Traditional issue trackers like Jira are slow and bloated, and mainly serve management rather than engineers","maker",[54],{"id":55},"post",{"value":57,"source":58,"evidence":59},"Engineering teams and project managers","inferred",[60,61],{"id":55},{"id":62,"by":63,"text":64},"40922506","haswell","Having worked quite deeply with Jira and a host of other enterprise products that target this set of use cases, and having a pretty good understanding of what decision makers are…",null,{"value":67,"source":52,"evidence":68},"Engineers find Jira frustrating and want AI to automate manual tracking workflows",[69],{"id":55},[71,77,83,92],{"value":72,"source":52,"evidence":73},"Node.js",[74],{"id":75,"by":11,"text":76},"40917410","My bad. We focused on the performance on the front end currently, as said before we loaded all the data locally and kept the data synced in the background to make the…",{"value":78,"source":52,"evidence":79},"Supertokens for authentication",[80],{"id":81,"by":11,"text":82},"40918278","thanks for the catch. We will remove those. Yes, we use Supertokens and we support email\u002Fpassword and google auth. Google auth is something we added recently as that was requested.",{"value":84,"source":52,"evidence":85},"Cohere for embeddings and re-ranking",[86,89],{"id":87,"by":11,"text":88},"40922735","We tried different approaches, we made a recent change where we started using cohere for re-ranking and embedding which did give really good results. Happy to create an account…",{"id":90,"by":11,"text":91},"40913729","Current AI functionalities: 1. AI-generated Titles 2. Smart Delegation 3. Duplicate Detection 4. AI Summarization 5. AI filtering 6. Automated Triaging Cohere: To improve smart…",{"value":93,"source":52,"evidence":94},"Mintlify for documentation",[95],{"id":96,"by":11,"text":97},"40918299","We are still working\u002Fimproving on the documentation. We use mintlify for documentation https:\u002F\u002Fdocs.tegon.ai\u002Fintroduction. Noted. We will work on it.","open_source","beta","team",{"praise":102,"objections":117,"requests":156,"questions":182,"alternatives":216},[103,109],{"value":104,"source":52,"evidence":105},"Performance focus with local data loading and background sync",[106],{"id":107,"by":11,"text":108},"40916384","True performance is our priority. From the very beginning, we focused on ensuring that our app ran smoothly and quickly. To achieve this, we load all the data locally, allowing…",{"value":110,"source":111,"evidence":112},"Feedback on performance as a key need for issue trackers","commenter",[113],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"40916201","CapeTheory","IMO the absolute most important thing with a tool like this is performance. I have to sign in to a handful of cloud desktops each week and interact with customer…",[118,126,133,138,149],{"value":119,"source":111,"evidence":120},"'AI-first' positioning is vague and hype-driven",[121,122],{"id":62,"by":63,"text":64},{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"40921774","shafyy","I don't know how to write this comment so it doesn't come off as unconstructive. But here you go. - \"AI-first\"? What does that even mean? Calling some API to auto-generate a…",{"value":127,"source":111,"evidence":128},"Open-source claim questioned given cloud monetisation plans",[129],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"40918115","peterldowns","First, congratulations on launching. I think people are so used to seeing beautiful products these days that it can be hard to remember how hard it is to make anything. Nice…",{"value":134,"source":111,"evidence":135},"Lacks differentiation from Linear and existing tools",[136,137],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},{"value":139,"source":111,"evidence":140},"Demo environment unavailable ('no healthy upstream')",[141,145],{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"40921117","maximilianburke","I'm getting a \"no healthy upstream\" error from the demo link.",{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"40944334","latchkey","Finally got around to checking this out and got: \"no healthy upstream\"",{"value":150,"source":111,"evidence":151},"Distrust of AI hallucinations in issue tracking",[152],{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"40919374","mort96","> AI-first I would've been interested in an actual replacement for Jira\u002FLinear, but I'm uninterested in an unreliable tool where I have to deal with hallucinations. 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I have no chance of convincing work away from Jira, but I'm always on the lookout for a better…",{"value":176,"source":111,"evidence":177},"Support for running AI on existing Jira or GitHub projects",[178],{"id":179,"by":180,"text":181},"40914444","faust201","Would it be possible to run AI\u002FML on an existing jira\u002Fgithub large project (k9mail\u002FKDE(gitlab) and show\u002Fprove this can be useful\u002Fbetter etc? 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