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This is such an interesting project, as it could bridge the gap between analysis in the business world and engineering. Our organization has been making…",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"41049241","nxobject","Don't undersell yourselves – you might also be able to sell this as an online collaborative \"next step\" for non-technical orgs who build LOB trackers in Excel! (If I had a penny…",{"value":126,"source":88,"evidence":127},"Interesting problem well addressed",[128,132],{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"41065984","ancras","Very interesting problem to solve. Congratulations on the launch!",{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"41058515","escapecharacter","Having built workflows myself like this, using a patchwork DAG of notebooks and cron jobs and state saving, I’m really glad someone is tackling the problem holistically!",[137,141,149,159],{"value":138,"source":88,"evidence":139},"Slow performance",[140],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},{"value":142,"source":88,"evidence":143},"No data export or self-hosting",[144,145],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"41054199","pil0u","Congratulations on the launch, the product looks very appealing. Would you consider an option for self-hosting?",{"value":150,"source":88,"evidence":151},"Pricing page inconsistencies",[152,156],{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"41050512","hkdobrev","On pricing page for annual pricing, there's a dot in the free plan \"Free.\" There's no dot anywhere on the plans including on the monthly \"Free\" plan. 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Congrats on the launch! I’m curious how you see it developing compared to an existing tool like Hex?",{"id":204,"by":205,"text":206},"41051080","mlajtos","Can you tell me how it compares to Deepnote.com please?",{"id":208,"by":209,"text":210},"41095121","clarkmcc","Would you say this is an alternative to https:\u002F\u002Fhex.tech\u002F, or does this fill a different niche?",{"value":212,"source":88,"evidence":213},"How database credentials are managed",[214],{"id":215,"by":216,"text":217},"41050634","pmdfgy","Nice explanation and execution. Looks super Pro ! Congrrats ! One question : how do you manage database credentials ? That's a question I've had a lot working on my project so…",{"value":219,"source":88,"evidence":220},"Whether it will be open source",[221],{"id":222,"by":223,"text":224},"41048823","suchintan","I've been using briefer for the past few weeks and have a few questions: 1. Do you intend Briefer to be a jupyter replacement or a metabase replacement? 2. 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