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I made this open source version of Cursor where you can get all of Cursor's core features but in a fully-customizable IDE (ctrl+k, ctrl+L). We love Cursor but there are so many other features we want to build, like allowing AI to edit multiple files at once, or giving AI better understanding of your file system. Void is the open-source, fully customizable tool we've been wanting.\n\nThe hard part: we're building Void as a fork of vscode. The repo has great documentation for extensions, but going deeper gets pretty involved. 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Looks fantastic, will happily try this!",[85,100,111],{"value":86,"source":74,"evidence":87},"Forking VS Code is unnecessary; an extension would do",[88,92,96],{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},"41566087","rie_t","I think more competition in the \"AI Editor\" space is good, but I have to ask – why not make it a VSCode extension? I feel it'd be much more accessible. Are there limitations in…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"41565847","oliwarner","Do you need to \"own\" the whole editor to do what you're doing? Just maintaining sync with upstream is a massive rod for your own back, and I don't see what you gain. As others…",{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"41566349","fathomas","But why does it have to be a VSCode fork? Couldn’t it be a VSCode plugin?",{"value":101,"source":74,"evidence":102},"Forks of editors tend to die out",[103,107],{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"41565038","ac130kz","Good job at creating more competition, but sorry for being a little bit rude, most software forks die out, try to convince me using this instead of Continue + Claude-dev, which…",{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"41567236","joshstrange","> we're building Void as a fork of vscode Hard pass. Sorry but you can pry IDEA from my cold dead hands or at least VSCode doesn't hold a candle to it IMHO. And no, I'm not…",{"value":112,"source":74,"evidence":113},"Waitlist and Discord gate access to the code",[114,118,122],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"41566749","2024user","So early stage that we can't download it? Why would I want to join a discord server for a code editor? What is the plan when VS Code introduces all your features?",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"41566796","jbkkd","Why is there a waiting list if it's open source?",{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"41580682","pratio","The repository contains the full source code but there's a waitlist to download? Why?",[127,138],{"value":128,"source":74,"evidence":129},"Support for JetBrains or Neovim",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"41564447","BoorishBears","I'm surprised no one in targeting Jetbrains IDEs as seriously as Cursor has targeted vscode. I'd imagine Jetbrains users are much more willing to pay, and the non-AI intelligence…",{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"41564814","rhardih","If anyone can point in the direction of a Cursor like experience, but within Neovim, I'm definitely in the market for that option.",{"value":139,"source":74,"evidence":140},"Better repo CI and contributor process",[141],{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"41564570","boomskats","Congrats on getting it this far! 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