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I read through the source code as an experienced desktop automation\u002FElectron developer and felt good about trying it for some basic tasks. The implementation is…",[62,70,77],{"value":63,"source":55,"evidence":64},"Electron",[65,66],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"41927700","magnat","> the default project they provided felt too heavyweight > This is a simple Electron app ಠ_ಠ",{"value":71,"source":55,"evidence":72},"TypeScript",[73],{"id":74,"by":75,"text":76},"41928334","arijo","We could maybe chose the target window as the screenshot capture source instead of the full screen to prevent it to be hidden buy the Agent: ``` const getScreenshot = async…",{"value":78,"source":55,"evidence":79},"Anthropic API",[80],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"unknown","prototype",{"praise":84,"objections":96,"requests":150,"questions":173,"alternatives":199},[85],{"value":86,"source":55,"evidence":87},"Useful idea with potential, especially for accessibility",[88,92],{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},"41942480","edub","Using LLM to control your machine has amazing potential for accessibility.",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"41927449","itissid","One thing this could be safely used is for generally is read only situations. Like monitor Brokered CD > 5% are released by refreshing the page or during the pandemic when Amazon…",[97,109,124,139],{"value":98,"source":55,"evidence":99},"Agent makes errors and falsely declares success",[100,101,105],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"41928586","InsideOutSanta","I asked it to send a message in WhatsApp saying that \"a robot sent this message,\" and it refused, because it didn't want to impersonate somebody else (which it wouldn't have).…",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"41928652","snug","It seems to only work with simple task, I asked it to create some simple tables in both Rhino (Mac App) and OnShape (Chrome tab) and it just seems lost With Rhino it sees the app…",{"value":110,"source":55,"evidence":111},"Serious security and privacy risk of giving an AI full control",[112,116,120],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"41927540","afinlayson","How long until it can quickly without you noticing add a daemon running on your system. This is the equivalent of how we used to worry about Soviet spies getting access to US…",{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"41927358","38","this is such a hilariously bad idea, its like knowingly installing malware on your computer - malware that has access to your bank account. please god, any sane person reading…",{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"41927328","tcdent","Not a doomer, but like, don't run this on your primary machine.",{"value":125,"source":55,"evidence":126},"Too expensive per hour for the results",[127,131,135],{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"41928355","TechDebtDevin","So the assistant I could pay to book me incorrect flights would cost $68.00 and hour. This makes me feel a little better about the state of things.",{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"41929033","jrflowers","> The exercise cost $0.38 in credits and about 20 seconds I am intrigued by a future where I can burn seventy dollars per hour watching my cursor click buttons on the computer…",{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"41930042","sigh_again",">Imagine it did this twice as fast, and cost the same. Is that worse? Yes. It could do it ten times as fast. A hundred times as fast. It could attempt to book ten thousand…",{"value":140,"source":55,"evidence":141},"Setup is complicated and errors occur",[142,146],{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"41927267","xnx","Alas, setup is not as simple as downloading and running \"agent.exe\".",{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"41934939","rsanek","Anyone else getting 400s with \"This action is restricted for safety reasons at this time\" when trying to use the app? I don't see any docs that mention you have to manually…",[151,158,169],{"value":152,"source":55,"evidence":153},"Hide the window from screenshots or capture only the target window",[154,155],{"id":74,"by":75,"text":76},{"id":156,"by":59,"text":157},"41928503","Yup that could help, although if the key content is behind the window, clicks would bug out. I'm writing a PR to hide the window for now as a simple solution. More graceful…",{"value":159,"source":55,"evidence":160},"Support OpenRouter and other model providers such as AWS Bedrock",[161,165],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"41927730","computeruseYES","Make it run out of the box with double click Make it allow any model selection with openrouter api keys Charge money?",{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"41928403","Simon321","Does it support AWS Bedrock instead of Anthropic as a provider?",{"value":170,"source":55,"evidence":171},"Make it run with a double click",[172],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},[174,185,192],{"value":175,"source":55,"evidence":176},"How many API tokens or dollars does a typical task cost?",[177,181],{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"41927656","pants2","Any anecdotes about how many $ of API credits this thing costs to run for a simple task like booking a flight?",{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"41928741","vineyardmike","I’m curious how many tokens this used, and what the actual effective maximum duration it has due to the context window.",{"value":186,"source":55,"evidence":187},"Can a local vision model be fine-tuned to replace Sonnet?",[188],{"id":189,"by":190,"text":191},"41927413","KaoruAoiShiho","How hard would it be to finetune a local VLM for computer use? Sonnet 3.5 is reaaaallly expensive.",{"value":193,"source":55,"evidence":194},"Can it be used for desktop or mobile app testing?",[195],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"41928580","another_devy","can this be used for desktop\u002F mobile app testing?",[200,207,218],{"value":201,"source":55,"evidence":202},"Anthropic's computer-use demo",[203],{"id":204,"by":205,"text":206},"41927772","ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7","No disclaimer hmm? Anthropic made it sound very scary. https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fanthropics\u002Fanthropic-quickstarts\u002Ftree\u002Fmain\u002Fcomputer-use-demo#anthropic-computer-use-demo",{"value":208,"source":55,"evidence":209},"Selenium and Playwright for browser automation",[210,214],{"id":211,"by":212,"text":213},"41929265","duckmysick","Super off-topic, but somewhat related. What people use to automate non-browser GUI apps on Linux on Wayland? I need to occasionally do it, but this particular combination eludes…",{"id":215,"by":216,"text":217},"41928142","andrewmcwatters","I've been wondering for a while now if Selenium could be replaced by a standard browser distribution with LLM multimodal control. This seems conceptually close.",{"value":219,"source":55,"evidence":220},"WebTalk, an in-browser action agent",[221],{"id":222,"by":223,"text":224},"41931520","SamDc73","I built something similar (still no GUI) but for the in browser actions only, I think in-browser actions are much safer and can be more predictable with easier to implement…",{"comments":18,"answered":37,"key":226},[227,230,233],{"id":228,"text":229},"41928146","(author here) yes it often confidently declares success when it clearly hasn't performed the task, and should have enough information from the screenshots to know that. 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