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If you have an ADHD problem get a licensed therapist, get medication, get into a group, read about and study your condition and do sports. I.e.…",{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"42014238","angrhd","Not this shit again. It is just as much of a scam as when you tried to shill it here last year, and the year before. Stop taking advantage of people with neurodevelopmental…",{"value":127,"source":78,"evidence":128},"Medication is the proven standard treatment",[129,130],{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},{"value":132,"source":78,"evidence":133},"Privacy policy is too long and not opt-in",[134],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"42012423","NMushroom","Hello, have you considered switching to opt-in privacy choices? 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