[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":653},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-42119042":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":47,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":82,"maker_in_thread":247,"shape":258,"grid":261,"attempts":614,"same_week":615,"maker_shows":46,"maker_hidden":645,"reader_version":646,"card":647},"42119042","Jelly","A simpler shared inbox for small teams","title","Show HN: Jelly – A simpler shared inbox for small teams","https:\u002F\u002Fletsjelly.com\u002F","letsjelly.com","mlettini",1731441345,2024,338,130,162,3515,5,"legend","productivity","shared inbox","web_app",[21,24,25,26],"team email","email collaboration","shared mailbox","curious",0.109,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":33},28,45,2,15,90,{"idea":36,"pricing":39,"design":42,"execution":43,"docs":45},{"positive":37,"critical":38},11,3,{"positive":40,"critical":41},7,8,{"positive":40,"critical":32},{"positive":44,"critical":44},0,{"positive":44,"critical":46},1,[46,38,44,38,44,44,44,18,38,18,48,18,18,48,38,18,38,18,18,48,32,38,48,38,46,32,32,32,44,18,18,38,18,44,38,18,38,38,46,46],4,"Hello HN!\n\nI wanted to share something we at Good Enough (https:\u002F\u002Fgoodenough.us) built over the past year:\n\nJelly! https:\u002F\u002Fletsjelly.com\n\nJelly is a simpler shared inbox for small teams (like us) to answer team email. We had just been sharing a login to Fastmail previously, but as email started getting busier, that really started to stink as a solution — no one knew who was going to answer what, if someone else saw an email or not, etc etc. And a Google Group would prove to be worse, as replies too easily got lost to personal inboxes if someone accidentally didn’t “Reply All”. 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(Who will be excited to get in while you're still offering flat-rate pricing,…","unknown","launched","company",{"praise":83,"objections":123,"requests":161,"questions":188,"alternatives":210},[84,104,112],{"value":85,"source":86,"evidence":87},"Clean, simple design and landing page.","commenter",[88,92,96,100],{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},"42119659","mxuribe","I'm really liking the UX there! In sports-speak there's the \"Whose got the ball\" method to identify who is managing a topic...and the way this is executed - from what i saw in…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"42120825","jklinger410","I _really_ like the way this landing page is designed. And I think it really highlights one of the sales points, which is that you are decent and reasonable. Good stuff. I'm…",{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"42125641","tapeo","I like your landing page UI",{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"42120055","NetOpWibby","Hey, neat design. (;",{"value":105,"source":86,"evidence":106},"Flat per-team pricing is fair compared with per-seat tools.",[107,108],{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"42119322","gukov","For an unlimited amount of users $29 is not all that insane.",{"value":113,"source":86,"evidence":114},"Does one thing well and fills a real gap.",[115,119],{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"42121563","pentagrama","This is one of those tools that do one thing and do it very well. Also the pricing is convenient. Congratulations to the creators. If you want to go the open source + self hosted…",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"42119926","noleary","Oh cool -- It'd be so easy to think someone else had solved this problem but I assure you, it hasn't yet ben solved. Eager to give this a try!",[124,143,154],{"value":125,"source":86,"evidence":126},"Price is high for family or very small teams.",[127,131,135,139],{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"42119769","mroset","Does anyone use a tool like this for shared family email? As the kids are getting older and there's email communication from daycare and school and extracurriculars and…",{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"42119136","didacusc","29 dollars a month is a bit of an insane starter price, especially for smaller teams.",{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"42125057","kundi","Looks promising but I think you are missing the essential plan for small teams or projects with 2 or 3 users. A plan that would capture those users would potentially enable them…",{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"42121124","nikolay","This is so expensive! I signed up for it, but when I saw the price... Come on, get real!",{"value":144,"source":86,"evidence":145},"Worry about the product lasting and vendor viability.",[146,150],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"42122274","blueberryfarm","I love the UI and simplicity. Any startup discount? What stack did you use? Are you funded by VCs? If we have to consider your app we have to make sure that you are going to be…",{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"42126458","ezl","i think the scary thing about onboarding teams onto products like this is the fear that it won't exist in a year. i wonder if the \"lite\" solution looks something like a chrome…",{"value":155,"source":86,"evidence":156},"Email deliverability concerns, verification email landed in spam.",[157],{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"42120514","kbanman","Love the product and you've nailed the simple design! I'm concerned about email deliverability--Even more so after the email verification ended up in my spam. Handling incoming…",[162,177,181],{"value":163,"source":86,"evidence":164},"Gmail or IMAP sync and integration with existing mailboxes.",[165,169,173],{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"42119299","johtso","If you're a team that currently uses google teams and gmail, is there a way you could start using it in parallel? I'm guessing any replies sent through Jelly would be invisible…",{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"42126106","hk1337","This seems really nice. How does it work with office365 and if we have an existing shared mailbox? Does it replace our current option or does it sit on top of it or what?",{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"42120675","yawnxyz","Can we use this as a mail interface on top of Fastmail?",{"value":178,"source":86,"evidence":179},"Cheaper essential plan for teams of two or three.",[180],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},{"value":182,"source":86,"evidence":183},"Spam filtering and automated triage of inbound mail.",[184],{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},"42119459","ThomasRooney","Would you mind explaining a bit more over why this has value over and above a google group in collaborative inbox mode? Annecdotally, I think there's a lot of good problems for a…",[189,194,206],{"value":190,"source":86,"evidence":191},"How does it compare with Google Groups or shared Gmail?",[192,193],{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},{"value":195,"source":86,"evidence":196},"What stack and inbound mail service is used?",[197,201,202],{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"42119264","Onavo","What's the stack like? I love the frontend design, are you using SES to handle the inbound mail?",{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},{"id":203,"by":204,"text":205},"42120247","ordinaryradical","You seem to have an interesting product philosophy - how does that translate into your engineering choices? I’m curious what you built Jelly with and how you approach building…",{"value":207,"source":86,"evidence":208},"How does it work with Office 365 and existing shared mailboxes?",[209],{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},[211,218,222,229,240],{"value":212,"source":86,"evidence":213},"Missive",[214],{"id":215,"by":216,"text":217},"42125925","tayloramurphy","We use Missive[0] and it's pretty good. It's definitely not as low price as Jelly though. [0] https:\u002F\u002Fmissiveapp.com\u002F",{"value":219,"source":86,"evidence":220},"Chatwoot",[221],{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},{"value":223,"source":86,"evidence":224},"Zammad",[225],{"id":226,"by":227,"text":228},"42122751","tupolef","I got in love with Zammad for this kind of things. It's a modern alternative to OTRS, but it's so light and easy to use that you can push it to any kind of business or personal…",{"value":230,"source":86,"evidence":231},"Google Groups and shared Gmail",[232,236],{"id":233,"by":234,"text":235},"42119259","jermaustin1","How will you keep your price so low? I've been burned too many times on \"simple, cheap, multi-user\" shared inboxes. Most recently Groove HQ where it went from $20 for our team of…",{"id":237,"by":238,"text":239},"42119501","mfld","> And a Google Group would prove to be worse, as replies too easily got lost to personal inboxes if someone accidentally didn’t “Reply All”. It wasn’t great! Very true.…",{"value":241,"source":86,"evidence":242},"Fastmail auto BCC rules",[243],{"id":244,"by":245,"text":246},"42121199","jmcphers","I use Fastmail for this. Here's what we do: - My wife and I each have our own email addresses - We have a third email address that we share with the school (etc.); this email…",{"comments":38,"answered":32,"key":248},[249,252,255],{"id":250,"text":251},"42119920","Thank you! Months ago when we were working on naming this product, some sports-speak was on the table, like Pop-fly and metaphors like what you mentioned XD",{"id":253,"text":254},"42120235","Thank you for sharing Jelly with someone who could potentially use it! And for the feedback on the homepage. It's very much a basic v1 of a marketing site that we need to iterate…",{"id":256,"text":257},"42119468","Great question! Two things: 1. Jelly has a way to follow conversations and get notifications about replies and comments. 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