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I’m one of the creators of Burner, a low cost Ethereum hardware wallet designed for gifting. After creating various forms of crypto “cash” (https:\u002F\u002Fkong.cash\u002F, https:\u002F\u002Foffline.cash\u002F) we learned that gifting cryptocurrencies was consistently one of the biggest challenges for holders and enthusiasts.\n\nBurner looks and feels like a colorful gift card, but under the hood it incorporates a secure element chip. You can access its wallet with just an NFC tap, and it works entirely through our (soon to be) open source web app.\n\nThere is a lot more to share, like USD II (created by https:\u002F\u002Fwww.b",{"problem":46,"audience":52,"pricing":56,"motivation":60,"time_to_build":64,"stack":65,"openness":78,"stage":79,"team_size":78},{"value":47,"source":48,"evidence":49},"Gifting cryptocurrency is difficult for holders and newcomers","maker",[50],{"id":51},"post",{"value":53,"source":48,"evidence":54},"Crypto holders and enthusiasts who want to gift crypto",[55],{"id":51},{"value":57,"source":48,"evidence":58},"Low cost; no fee details stated",[59],{"id":51},{"value":61,"source":48,"evidence":62},"Gifting crypto was a consistent challenge for holders and enthusiasts",[63],{"id":51},null,[66,70,74],{"value":67,"source":48,"evidence":68},"Ethereum",[69],{"id":51},{"value":71,"source":48,"evidence":72},"Secure element chip with NFC",[73],{"id":51},{"value":75,"source":48,"evidence":76},"USD II stablecoin built with Bridge",[77],{"id":51},"unknown","launched",{"praise":81,"objections":97,"requests":133,"questions":158,"alternatives":176},[82,90],{"value":83,"source":84,"evidence":85},"Easier, cheaper way to manage crypto","commenter",[86],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"42131494","rdyplayerB","Spent more than 4x as much on my Ledger, and it's far from perfect and def not ideal for gifting crypto. I'm personally supportive of any company\u002Fproduct that wants to make…",{"value":91,"source":84,"evidence":92},"Cool execution of a long-floating idea",[93],{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"42138657","pants2","This is a really cool execution of an idea that's been floating out there a while. Next you just need a bitcoin one in the shape of a coin!",[98,108,119,126],{"value":99,"source":84,"evidence":100},"Stablecoin is unnecessary; ETH can be gifted directly",[101,105],{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"42141304","KomoD","> Put another way, if I gift you a Ledger with USDC today, you as a possible crypto newbie need to work out how to get ETH to move that USDC. Or I could just gift them ETH…",{"id":106,"by":11,"text":107},"42131900","You can just gift ETH. And good news, as a stablecoin backed by dollars USD II is pegged to the dollar so no “pumping” or “dumping”.",{"value":109,"source":84,"evidence":110},"Stablecoin trust and reserve concerns",[111,115],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"42131243","thereddevil","A crypto security firm says that crypto is safer now and we are all supposed to believe it? Also stablecoins like USDT which is supposed to be backed with USD but has never had…",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"42132949","cadillion","Why would a crypto security firm be incentivized to tell people there is LESS crime? They want to sell MORE services for hunting down criminals. They are the de facto FBI…",{"value":120,"source":84,"evidence":121},"Could be used for scams like gift cards",[122],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"42129687","throwaway314155","Bold of you to \"Show HN:\" a crypto project. As best I can tell, this will be use for all the things scam gift cards are typically used for now but more (because now crypto is…",{"value":127,"source":84,"evidence":128},"Key custody and seed phrase concerns",[129],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"42134203","usbsea","You avoid a seed phrase, but how? I thought it was \"not your keys not your coin\". My understanding is someone who wants secure crypto needs to cryptographically safely generate a…",[134,141,148],{"value":135,"source":84,"evidence":136},"Solana variant",[137],{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"42133910","ktothe","Looks interesting, would suggest going with Solana over Ethereum though, especially in 2024.",{"value":142,"source":84,"evidence":143},"Fee information for gifts",[144],{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"42160946","throwawayaghas1","What’s in it for you? Are there fees involved for the end user to send a gift? If so, how much is it?",{"value":149,"source":84,"evidence":150},"Fix uBlock Origin page rendering",[151,155],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"42127993","not_your_vase","Half offtopic note, but maybe you want to know: uBlock origin seems to have a beef with your site - by default it applies enough filters that only a brown background remains.",{"id":156,"by":103,"text":157},"42141255","Same here.",[159,163,169],{"value":160,"source":84,"evidence":161},"How is the seed phrase avoided",[162],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},{"value":164,"source":84,"evidence":165},"What happens to funds if the site dies",[166],{"id":167,"by":103,"text":168},"42141294","And when your site dies is the crypto gone?",{"value":170,"source":84,"evidence":171},"Where recipients can spend USD II",[172],{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"42135845","cnowacek","Gifting dollars on gift cards today is only supported by 99.9% of retailers. How many retailers accept USD II?",[177,181,188],{"value":178,"source":84,"evidence":179},"Ledger hardware wallet",[180],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},{"value":182,"source":84,"evidence":183},"Paper wallets",[184],{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},"42136444","brokensegue","Why wouldn't I gift using a paper wallet?",{"value":189,"source":84,"evidence":190},"Cash or gift cards",[191],{"id":192,"by":186,"text":193},"42138104","hmm. maybe give cash instead then",{"comments":195,"answered":196,"key":197},13,9,[198,199,202],{"id":106,"text":107},{"id":200,"text":201},"42131892","There is a massive trillion dollar market around gifting dollars on gift cards today, but you can typically only use them on Visa and Mastercard networks. 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