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Our first principle in thinking about privacy is to be clear to our users in what we are and are not doing with…",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"4356924","Assuming you mean why it's relevant now, not why mobile adoption is up, the mobile number travels with you at all times and also is more heavily used for SMS, which is becoming…",{"value":62,"source":53,"evidence":63},"People who want privacy when using phone calls and SMS, e.g. for dating or Craigslist",[64],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},{"value":66,"source":53,"evidence":67},"One-time app store purchase of about $1.99 (includes one number, up to a week or 20 voice minutes)",[68,71],{"id":69,"by":11,"text":70},"4356476","you get one number, good for up to a week or 20 voice minutes \u002F 60 messages, with the initial purchase. after that you can get more burners on a similar basis.",{"id":72,"by":73,"text":74},"4355775","dpritchett","Am I wrong in guessing this is a Twilio-powered service? If so, this is a brilliant pricing model for adding value on top of someone else's API. One-time App store pricing of…",{"value":76,"source":53,"evidence":77},"Protect privacy and avoid stalker risk when giving out a mobile number",[78,79],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},[81,87],{"value":82,"source":53,"evidence":83},"Twilio",[84],{"id":85,"by":11,"text":86},"4355848","We proudly work with Twilio -- though there's a lot of work that's gone into managing the user-facing aspects of the service and the UX.",{"value":88,"source":53,"evidence":89},"Rackspace hosting",[90],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"paid","launched","unknown",{"praise":95,"objections":119,"requests":153,"questions":189,"alternatives":211},[96,112],{"value":97,"source":98,"evidence":99},"Clever idea and good name","commenter",[100,104,108],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"4355981","stanmancan","This is a brilliant idea. I had this exact same one myself a few months ago and never moved forward with it because I had no clue how to execute it properly. Without having…",{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"4356318","merrick","Did the founders watch The Wire - love the name!",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"4356103","twelvedigits","You, sir, win the award for best product name. And shame, HN, for not complimenting him sooner.",{"value":113,"source":98,"evidence":114},"Polished, fast app",[115],{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"4356275","noinput","Really wonderful job on this app. Just tested it out (ios6b4 on a 4s) and all worked really well and very fast. Would love to see some usage data as you grow. Congrats on shipping!",[120,131,142],{"value":121,"source":98,"evidence":122},"Pricing is steep and unclear before purchase",[123,127],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"4357566","ApolloRising","Pricing seems a bit steep for what you get, especially since it is not obvious before you buy the app.",{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"4355921","quintendf","This looks like a great concept- but I have to question the one time purchase price. Right now, Burner is top of mind for me, but I don't have an immediate need to use the app.…",{"value":132,"source":98,"evidence":133},"Could be used for harassment or drug dealing",[134,138],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"4355884","patrickmclaren","\"You can use a Burner for dating, Craigslist, short-term projects, side businesses, bands, and other times when you need to be in touch but want to maintain a little privacy.\" --…",{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"4358460","barakstout","A drug dealers dream...",{"value":143,"source":98,"evidence":144},"Recycled numbers may receive stray calls",[145,149],{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"4357323","arturadib","Neat idea. A couple of thoughts: 1- They better have a very large pool of unused numbers - otherwise it's likely my phone will be randomly ringing due to the many past users of…",{"id":150,"by":151,"text":152},"4355802","PanMan","Great idea: I assume app + backend + twillio API? The only think that might confuse people is if you start to recycle numbers (because you don't want to keep paying for them),…",[154,166,181],{"value":155,"source":98,"evidence":156},"Android version",[157,161,165],{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"4355897","philipDS","Very clever idea. Any plans on an Android version?",{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"4356035","sspiff","Is this coming to Android at any time?",{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},{"value":167,"source":98,"evidence":168},"International availability",[169,173,177],{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"4356032","adelivet","Does anyone know if they plan to launch the same service in Europe soon? Or does a similar service exist?",{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"4356029","drcongo","Please bring this to the UK app store. Please.",{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"4356039","meursault","Awesome idea. You don't seem to be listed in non-US app stores (Canada, in my case). Any plans to be available internationally, or at least in the same countries served by Twilio?",{"value":182,"source":98,"evidence":183},"Free app with in-app purchases",[184,188],{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},"4358711","nicc_ap","Greg, Wouldn't it be a better idea to release the app for free and then use in-app purchases for the numbers? That way you would not scare away the people who just want to…",{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},[190,201],{"value":191,"source":98,"evidence":192},"Law enforcement and subpoena policy",[193,197],{"id":194,"by":195,"text":196},"4356791","yahelc","So, the term \"Burner\" is associated with temporary cell phones used by criminals to avoid wiretaps. Presumably that's the inspiration for the name and the concept. What happens…",{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"4355833","Tyrannosaurs","I wonder if they keep track of who had what number and when? Just thinking about whether law enforcement or the courts can get details.",{"value":202,"source":98,"evidence":203},"Whether outbound calls and texts work",[204,208],{"id":205,"by":206,"text":207},"4356214","jack-r-abbit","I assume this is incoming only? or can a Burner number be used to make calls and send texts? Either way, I see huge value in something like this (too bad you are iOS only). But…",{"id":209,"by":11,"text":210},"4356457","in-bound and outbound, calls and texts. and you can turn the ringer and\u002For message notifications on and off as you like.",[212,216,223],{"value":213,"source":98,"evidence":214},"Google Voice",[215],{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},{"value":217,"source":98,"evidence":218},"RingCentral",[219],{"id":220,"by":221,"text":222},"4356311","g123g","RingCentral, a more established player in this space, has been providing a similar service since last year http:\u002F\u002Fmashable.com\u002F2011\u002F09\u002F12\u002Fringcentral-new-numbers\u002F",{"value":224,"source":98,"evidence":225},"Plivo and Twilio-based services",[226],{"id":227,"by":228,"text":229},"4356680","jhuckestein","If it's Twilio, then numbers will only cost 50 cents in volume pricing so this could be a nice model. I'm skeptical about handling dead numbers though. 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