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The biggest issue with other solutions is…",{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"4370526","lixef","Every time people think about a solution about this (to my mind) huge e-mail issue I'm really happy to be not the only one who is sick of the existing solutions out there. I used…",[62,69],{"value":63,"source":64,"evidence":65},"Node.js","maker",[66],{"id":67,"by":11,"text":68},"4370575","Great question - we're using the xmpp_login permission that Facebook Auth provides to get messaging permission from the user and we have an XMPP server running on Node.js that…",{"value":70,"source":64,"evidence":71},"XMPP server",[72],{"id":67,"by":11,"text":68},"unknown","beta",{"praise":76,"objections":93,"requests":158,"questions":177,"alternatives":202},[77,86],{"value":78,"source":51,"evidence":79},"Solves the email file attachment problem with simple ease of use",[80,81,82],{"id":54,"by":55,"text":56},{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"4370501","kirillzubovsky","Looks so simple, it's hard to believe it's really true. Good job! Can't wait to get my invite.",{"value":87,"source":51,"evidence":88},"Desktop OS X integration looks good",[89],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"4370797","latortuga","Cool product and integration with OS X. Your video needs a lot of work - you're talking way too much about technical things like 'threads' 'asynchronous' and 'in the background'…",[94,117,130,144,151],{"value":95,"source":51,"evidence":96},"Requiring Facebook login limits users and raises privacy concerns",[97,101,105,109,113],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"4370515","miles","We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's Facebook message inbox. You might want to consider offering a couple of different…",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"4370529","mtgx","I'll never use a service that requires a FB login exclusively.",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"4370628","misnome","Half the internet may use Facebook, but how many people, in the target audience for this service, prefer to tie as little as possible to their Facebook account? I know that if a…",{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"4370810","alan_cx","It may well be a great product, but sadly as soon as I see the word \"facebook\", my gut reaction is good bye privacy, there for Im automatically excluded. Shame.",{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"4370514","webwanderings","\"All our files are encrypted with top of the line 256-bit AES encryption. We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's…",{"value":118,"source":51,"evidence":119},"Unclear whether it is truly peer-to-peer since files go through servers",[120,124,127],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"4370499","dfc","Peer to peer? I guess I am getting old. I can remember when peer to peer meant that one host would communicate directly to the other host and not store the file transfer on a…",{"id":125,"by":99,"text":126},"4370587","Amen, brother! These were my assumptions as well when clicking the link. It would be more accurate to call this service peer-to-server-to-another-server-to-peer.",{"id":128,"by":11,"text":129},"4370580","We only store the file on our central server if the receiving end doesn't have our app. If they have the app, we create a direct connection between both parties and transfer the…",{"value":131,"source":51,"evidence":132},"No clear business model or pricing",[133,137,140],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"4372224","white_devil","So how do you plan to make money? I can't see any pricing information, so I guess this is yet another case of users being the product.",{"id":138,"by":59,"text":139},"4370556","Seriously, how are they going to make money in the future? Is it just free in the alpha?",{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"4370799","tashmahalic","how will you generate revenue?",{"value":145,"source":51,"evidence":146},"Site served over HTTP rather than HTTPS",[147],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},"4370570","simonmales","Secure via HTTP? I think your URL is missing an 's'.",{"value":152,"source":51,"evidence":153},"File size limits are unclear",[154],{"id":155,"by":156,"text":157},"4370637","mapgrep","That's a little disappointing, because it means your claim to have no file size limits can't really be true. What is the real limit for sending a file to someone who doesn't have…",[159,167,171],{"value":160,"source":51,"evidence":161},"Offer non-Facebook sign-up options",[162,163],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"id":164,"by":165,"text":166},"4370707","mwexler","Agreed: Many groups block FB; if you want any corporate or business use, you probably don't want to require FB logins.",{"value":168,"source":51,"evidence":169},"Clarify file storage duration",[170],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"value":172,"source":51,"evidence":173},"Clarify how firewalls are handled",[174],{"id":175,"by":122,"text":176},"4370602","So you actually think this is a P2P architecture? On a related note how do you handle firewall piercing?",[178,184,195],{"value":179,"source":51,"evidence":180},"How will the service generate revenue?",[181,182,183],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},{"id":138,"by":59,"text":139},{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},{"value":185,"source":51,"evidence":186},"How are Facebook messages sent programmatically?",[187,191],{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"4372475","itmag","We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's Facebook message inbox. Technical question: how are they able to do this? I…",{"id":192,"by":193,"text":194},"4370569","fomojola","Side note, but I'm curious: what do you use to send messages directly to the Facebook messages inbox? The standard FB dialog or is there some Graph API endpoint that will let you…",{"value":196,"source":51,"evidence":197},"What happens if a transfer is interrupted?",[198],{"id":199,"by":200,"text":201},"4370871","spartango","Curiosity question: what happens if I disconnect my machine halfway through a direct transfer? Do you support continued download\u002Fupload (or multipart)? I guess in the case of a…",[203,207,217,224],{"value":204,"source":51,"evidence":205},"WeTransfer, YouSendIt, Crate, ge.tt",[206],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"value":208,"source":51,"evidence":209},"Share (BitTorrent), SoShare",[210,214],{"id":211,"by":212,"text":213},"4370542","icebraining","How are you different from SoShare[1]? [1]: http:\u002F\u002Fwww.getshareapp.com\u002F",{"id":215,"by":212,"text":216},"4372367","You may be confused at what Share is; it's a desktop application that uses the bittorrent protocol[1] to do P2P transfers between users. It integrates with Facebook for very much…",{"value":218,"source":51,"evidence":219},"Sendoid, Dropbox, Skype",[220],{"id":221,"by":222,"text":223},"4371488","dools","This seems almost identical to Sendoid which appears to have died completely. For asynch file sharing, we can use Dropbox, for synchronous file sharing, Skype. Is there a file…",{"value":225,"source":51,"evidence":226},"Dropdock, copyfile.net, FilesOverMiles, Nitroshare",[227,231,235,239],{"id":228,"by":229,"text":230},"4370646","knes","Great that other smart people are trying to make sending files easier! We at Dropdock ( http:\u002Fgetdropdock.com\u002Fgetstarted , check at the end for invite code ) are also working on…",{"id":232,"by":233,"text":234},"4370654","aprescott","I literally just finished something today that attempts to solve a similar problem: http:\u002F\u002Fcopyfile.net\u002F",{"id":236,"by":237,"text":238},"4370598","bencoder","I use a flash based p2p file transfer service for this now: http:\u002F\u002Fwww.filesovermiles.com\u002F Can't really see how this could be more convenient to me.",{"id":240,"by":241,"text":242},"4371213","slurgfest","I am surprised that nobody mentioned Nitroshare, which is great for a number of use cases, and completely free",{"comments":30,"answered":30,"key":244},[245,248,249],{"id":246,"text":247},"4370565","We also support hooking into your address book on your Mac, and are working on integrating your online email address book and ActiveDirectory into it. 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