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At this point WASM was the best choice for me to run the calculation with uint64 as I wasn't sure how much BigInt in JavaScript is efficient.","open_source","launched","unknown",{"praise":92,"objections":112,"requests":147,"questions":177,"alternatives":190},[93,101],{"value":94,"source":95,"evidence":96},"Nostalgic and fun project for commenters who once checked Goldbach themselves","commenter",[97],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"43735464","krylon","When I learned programming, one of my first programs was a (rather lame) attempt to check the Goldbach conjecture. Over the years, as I learned more programming languages (first…",{"value":102,"source":95,"evidence":103},"Cool project and easy to contribute compute",[104,108],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"43734851","laurent_du","Impressive work! I did my share and added one billion verified numbers to your total, now you just need to get (almost) another billion of people to do the same and you'll…",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"43735753","heikkilevanto","Running it now. On my phone (FairPhone 4) it took about 20 seconds for a round. On my desktop (Debian Liunux, KDE, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz), Firefox runs a round…",[113,132,143],{"value":114,"source":95,"evidence":115},"'World record' claim is misleading given tiny increment over prior result",[116,120,124,128],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"43736252","commonlisper","Cool project but... This is an egregious misrepresentation of the actual results both from significance perspective and accuracy perspective. A. No validation is done on server…",{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"43737445","throwaway150","That makes sense in sports. But in math? It's trivially easy to generate thousands of so-called \"world records\" every second. Here's one: 4*10^18 + 7*10^13 + 1. Boom! New world…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"43737931","zamadatix","This is more like if someone pulled a truck down 2,800 miles of road between NYC and LA in 2012, left it there, and then you grabbed the rope in 2025 to pull it less than another…",{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"43735097","Karliss","I call BS on this one. Placing a penny on top of skyscraper doesn't make you a builder of highest building. Still an interesting (more than) weekend project but not a meaningful…",{"value":133,"source":95,"evidence":134},"Results cannot be verified because clients can cheat and server does not validate",[135,136,139],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},{"id":137,"by":122,"text":138},"43735947","I truly hate to bring this up, knowing how much passion has gone into this project. But there's an important thread got buried due to arguments! That thread raises serious…",{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"43734877","tromp","Does the gridbach server trust all submitted results to be correct, or can it somehow verify them (much faster than the outsourced computation) ? I managed to contribute 2B…",{"value":144,"source":95,"evidence":145},"Compute is inefficient compared with the prior native record software",[146],{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},[148,160,171],{"value":149,"source":95,"evidence":150},"Explain how results are validated against cheating clients",[151,155,159],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"43734985","Gehinnn","But how do you make sure the user actually runs your component without any modification?",{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"43735776","pylua","Honest question— how is this verified for accuracy ? 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