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Right now, we’re working on adding features like optional…",{"id":99,"by":11,"text":100},"44148523","Totally valid concern — and one we take seriously. In a world where things can go wrong and legal issues can arise, it’s important to have safeguards. We're currently working on…",{"id":102,"by":11,"text":103},"44148258","Thank you — really appreciate that, and you nailed one of the biggest problems we’re trying to solve. Those “budget” DIY videos often skip over the fact that the creator is using…",{"value":105,"source":85,"evidence":106},"Desktop navigation is confusing",[107,110],{"id":108,"by":11,"text":109},"44148778","Totally fair feedback — and you're right, the layout feels unexpected on desktop. 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