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Very impressive. I hope it inspires other to build things they're passionate about. \"You can just do things. And learn things.\" No need to wait for permission, or…",{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},"44243031","cwmoore","“”” ‘A century ago, you needed at least a brother and a bicycle shop to pioneer flight. Today, you just need the right toolchain…’ Incredibly humbling! “”” The imagination to…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"44244065","tamimio","I loved it! But I loved even more the idea of when a person has no prior experience or knowledge in something yet achieves great results in a short period of time. That build…",[97,107,114],{"value":98,"source":50,"evidence":99},"Foaming PLA is brittle and weak against impacts",[100,104],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"44241552","the__alchemist","I'm curious how this compares to foam-frame designs. Being able to customize it is obviously a big advantage, as is the non-solid-infill of 3d-printed parts. 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