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I find it worse than when the news is…",{"id":105,"by":102,"text":106},"44574486","it's the \"thinking\" frozen state while it uploads and waits for a GPT response that is unnerving. if the eyes did something to indicate progress is being made, then it would…",{"value":108,"source":63,"evidence":109},"Continuous audio listening is privacy-problematic",[110],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},{"value":112,"source":63,"evidence":113},"Not truly alive; expressiveness fades once behavior is predictable",[114,118],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"44573456","rainingmonkey","What a fascinating intersection of technology and human psychology! \"One thing I noticed toward the end is that, even though the robot remained expressive, it started feeling…",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"44578488","gigatree","I don’t think the issue is that it feels alive as much as that it’s just not alive, so its utility is limited by its practical functionality, not its “opinions” or “personality”…",[123,130,145],{"value":124,"source":63,"evidence":125},"Use a wake word instead of continuous listening",[126],{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"44573901","accrual","> also, \"GPT-4o continuously listens to speech through the audio stream,\" is going to be problematic This seems like a good place to leverage a wake word library, perhaps…",{"value":131,"source":63,"evidence":132},"Run a smaller on-device model for lower latency",[133,137,141],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"44573904","jszymborski","I wonder how well suited some of the smaller LLMs like Qwen 0.6B would be suited to this... it doesn't sound like a super complicated task. 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