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And then you say \"use our stuff instead\".",{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},"4517956","We're a tool for people to make webpages without using a template, so they can start from scratch with a totally blank canvas. You can see the sort of things people are making…",{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},"4518529","codybrown","You're able to build a completely unique site from a blank page in scroll kit. You are given a text form in other publishing platforms. Those are pretty different terms.",{"value":67,"source":68,"evidence":69},"People who want to make webpages without knowing HTML or CSS","commenter",[70,74],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"4519100","nbashaw","Not everyone knows (or wants to learn) HTML & CSS. I can see this service being valuable for those people",{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"4520096","jval","I really like this idea. Isn't HN meant to be the kind of place to share this stuff? 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