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But you're right: summarizing content is a lot of work, it takes a couple minutes to…",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"4604558","We do too :) Thanks !",[62,70],{"value":63,"source":64,"evidence":65},"Express","commenter",[66],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"4603232","n1c","This stings a bit because I've been [slowly] building basically the same thing! Any particular reason you guys went with Express\u002FMongo?",{"value":71,"source":64,"evidence":72},"MongoDB",[73],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"unknown","beta","team",{"praise":78,"objections":112,"requests":150,"questions":195,"alternatives":211},[79,94,101],{"value":80,"source":64,"evidence":81},"Onboarding bookmarklet tutorial is charming and effective",[82,86,90],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"4602681","asdfprou","Onboarding process was awesome and effective. I went to the site meaning to just check it out but the process was almost too easy and now I have the tldr bookmarklet just sitting…",{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"4605924","erenemre","Best. Bookmarklet. Tutorial. Ever. Thank you. I, too, needed something like this forever. Every time I see a long article, I complain about the lack of a tl;dr. Unfortunately, I…",{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"4603396","Doches","I'd have read the description of the tool, thought 'eh, cool', and clicked away if it weren't for the absurdly cute instructions for installing the bookmarklet. Probably one of…",{"value":95,"source":64,"evidence":96},"Summaries shown are concise and useful",[97],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"4602503","matthieurouif","I love the few summaries I could read, it is to the point. If you can find writers, it could become a must have",{"value":102,"source":64,"evidence":103},"Idea addresses signal-to-noise problem",[104,108],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"4603469","RivieraKid","This is great, I regularly wish something like this existed. Almost every interesting article \u002F blog has a terrible signal to noise ratio.",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"4605806","rooshdi","I was starting to work on almost this exact same tldr concept recently but decided to shift to another project instead. It's great to see another group of people tackling the…",[113,128,136,143],{"value":114,"source":64,"evidence":115},"Cannot try the service without installing the bookmarklet",[116,120,124],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"4602455","sync","Lovely drag\u002Fdrop bookmarklet tutorial w\u002F animated arrow and helpful prompts and everything. Though, really, I would like to try the service out without having to drag\u002Fdrop a…",{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"4603468","jmsduran","Yes I agree. Once I found that I had to install a bookmarklet into my browser in order to try it, I just exited the site altogether. A demo without having to login\u002Finstall…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"4603235","stfu","Exactly. Especially if a site wants to get a permanent spot in my browser, it must demonstrate its value upfront. And without some good examples this is not going to happen.",{"value":129,"source":64,"evidence":130},"Human-written summaries may not scale; little content covered yet",[131,132],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"4602889","rahooligan","This is really cool & solves a problem for me. I installed the bookmarklet and am looking forward to using it. I see that you are relying on the community to summarize pages &…",{"value":137,"source":64,"evidence":138},"Concern that summaries discourage careful reading",[139],{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"4604933","_xhok","I think the idea's really neat, but at the same time I'm concerned about the effect that things like this have on the attitude of our culture. A large part of critical reading is…",{"value":144,"source":64,"evidence":145},"Accuracy of summaries is unverified",[146],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"4603306","bgrohman","As a user, how do I know that the summary I'm reading is an accurate reflection of the article? Do you have any plans to validate the tl;dr entries? Have you thought about a…",[151,170,184],{"value":152,"source":64,"evidence":153},"Browser extension showing when a summary exists",[154,158,162,166],{"id":155,"by":156,"text":157},"4603574","engtech","It may be better implemented as a firefox\u002Fchrome extension? Given that the majority of sites will not likely have a tl;dr I am unlikely to click the bookmarklet every time I open…",{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"4602548","alecdibble","That's a good idea! Have you thought about making Chrome\u002FFirefox extensions as well to interface with your service? I feel like the extensions would be more integrated and…",{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"4602775","mmahemoff","I really like the bookmarklet intro, but my concern with a bookmark is it's static. If it was an extension, it could change to show if there's already a tl;dr present. The web is…",{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"4602803","c4urself","Nice site, really nice UI with the arrow pointing to the bookmark bar. A change in the color of the tl;dr; bookmark when there's a bookmark available would really go a long way!…",{"value":171,"source":64,"evidence":172},"Demo or sample summaries on the homepage",[173,177,181],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"4603145","jey","Yeah, I was expecting something on the homepage like a top 10 list of popular tl;drs that I could try out without doing anything else first.",{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"4602596","jamespitts","Pretty cool. You might want to put a list of the day's top tl;drs on your landing page, or def. under \"want some\". When you roll over the title of the story, you get a floating…",{"id":182,"by":175,"text":183},"4604170","I bounced without trying it because I couldn't figure out what it was going to actually give me. I would have been more likely to sign up or drag the button to my toolbar if you…",{"value":185,"source":64,"evidence":186},"Community voting or editing of summaries",[187,191],{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"4602734","wiradikusuma","This is great! Love the cute effect when dragging! I think the content of TL;DR should be in Wiki a'la StackOverflow, so people can refine it together. And probably showing a…",{"id":192,"by":193,"text":194},"4604151","zerostar07","I meant allow everyone to contribute and have an up\u002Fdown voting system that also does not require login (based on cookies \u002F ip maybe? dunno)",[196,204],{"value":197,"source":64,"evidence":198},"How will the project get people to write summaries?",[199,203],{"id":200,"by":201,"text":202},"4603061","martinpannier","Interesting idea. Would love to know how you guys will tackle the tl;dr generation issue—how to incentivize people to contribute, etc. This is definitely a very interesting…",{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},{"value":205,"source":64,"evidence":206},"How will the project make money?",[207],{"id":208,"by":209,"text":210},"4606036","eranation","Any ideas how to make money out of it? I thought of a similar idea after developing an addiction to reading every article on HN in fear I'm missing something that will change the…",[212,222,229,236,242],{"value":213,"source":64,"evidence":214},"Summly",[215,219],{"id":216,"by":217,"text":218},"4603165","citricsquid","Slight tangent, there was a kid (maybe 15?) a while back doing an automated content summariser for mobile and he was all over the tech sites for being incredible after getting an…",{"id":220,"by":11,"text":221},"4606276","That's one way to approach this problem, and there are a couple companies trying it, most notably Summly. We believe that software-made summaries are not good enough, which is…",{"value":223,"source":64,"evidence":224},"gis.to",[225],{"id":226,"by":227,"text":228},"4602716","rkda","Isn't this what gis.to does?",{"value":230,"source":64,"evidence":231},"Streamliner",[232],{"id":233,"by":234,"text":235},"4603686","johndavi","We took a whack at this problem (agree it is big issue worth solving) last year with Streamliner, http:\u002F\u002Fwww.streamliner.co. (Hint: ignore the video-specific text and paste in a…",{"value":237,"source":64,"evidence":238},"noteplz",[239],{"id":240,"by":193,"text":241},"4603470","Good luck with the site. I had a similar idea, also implemented as a bookmarklet (here: http:\u002F\u002Fnews.ycombinator.com\u002Fitem?id=2909309 which later mutated to http:\u002F\u002Fnoteplz.com\u002F).…",{"value":243,"source":64,"evidence":244},"condensr",[245],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},{"comments":247,"answered":48,"key":248},17,[249,252,255],{"id":250,"text":251},"4602484","Thanks for the feedback on the onboarding :) It is not yet possible to try the service without the bookmarklet, but here is an example of a summary we created for the video of…",{"id":253,"text":254},"4602528","Yep, sorry about that! It is not possible (with Chrome nor Firefox) to detect if the link was correctly dropped on the bookmarks bar or above. 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