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We're a team of three building a new kind of web-based markdown editor.\n\nThere are many editors out there, so one is spoiled for choice, but Kraa's approach is a little different. It's trying to be both a minimal and distraction-free experience while being feature-rich and allowing for tons of use cases.\n\nWhat Kraa's good for:\n\n- Distraction-free writing & reading (minimal UI, performant, styling logic completely separated from the editing experience)\n\n- Quick sharing of any written text – compared to many other writing tools, your content can be easily shared just by posting a link ",{"problem":49,"audience":55,"pricing":56,"motivation":55,"time_to_build":55,"stack":65,"openness":78,"stage":79,"team_size":80},{"value":50,"source":51,"evidence":52},"Writing tools that are minimal, distraction-free, and easy to share by link","maker",[53],{"id":54},"post",null,{"value":57,"source":51,"evidence":58},"Free now; a planned 'pro' tier in 2026 adds storage and advanced features",[59,62],{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},"46161663","What you see now will always be free. 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I was thinking of similar markdown editing experience, so I am happy you did this so I don't have…",{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"46165337","linhns","Mine got laggy after refresh, however have to commend them for such slick UI",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"46161463","imcritic","This is damn awesome! Edit: at first I thought it was too damn awesome, but then I noticed that my phone is overheating after just a few minutes watching the live chat.",{"value":100,"source":85,"evidence":101},"Good for quick jotting of ideas",[102],{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"46190460","frankhsu","I love this product immediately after typing something in it. For the foreseeable future, I'll be using it as my first choice when I want to jot down anything. 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I got curious, and looked at the DOM, and seems the editor when empty is just one line of the full page, which if you click anywhere else…",{"value":133,"source":85,"evidence":134},"Pricing not visible without account",[135,139],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"46173972","TheAtomic","If I have to create an a\u002Fc to find out the price, then no.",{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"46225654","tigroferoce","I mean, you can try the product, sure. And then decide depending on the price. But would invest time into a product that doesn't even a pricing page?",{"value":144,"source":85,"evidence":145},"No end-to-end encryption",[146,150],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"46161488","dwa3592","Beautiful. Is it E2E encrypted?",{"id":151,"by":127,"text":152},"46161891","Does it matter? They'll surely wouldn't implement a local\u002Fclient-first E2E encryption, so in the end they'll be holding the keys anyways. 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